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Re: Why question it? Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM
It's a direct quote from the text ... Couldn't be more clear. Moridin killed her as part of the punishment ...


Because she makes the same assumption about Hesselam. She doesn't really know why Graendal is now an ugly crone.
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AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* Sidious - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3434 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. Narg - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1666 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1606 Views
I thought of Logain as well... Narg - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1483 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. Nargs - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1590 Views
It was spelled out before. Terez - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1410 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 818 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... DomA - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1414 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 1365 Views
I know... DomA - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1427 Views
I'm not so sure Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 1402 Views
Why question it? darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 1250 Views
Re: Why question it? Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 1250 Views
No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 04:10:04 PM 1484 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:41:13 PM 1414 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks DomA - 25/09/2012 07:21:03 PM 1396 Views
Re: No she doesn't. She focuses on Graendal's punishment being about her looks Sidious - 25/09/2012 07:53:47 PM 1175 Views
Six Chosen... entyti - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1579 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction The Wandering Gambler - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1624 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken Tom - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1478 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* Marshall - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 811 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken DomA - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 1356 Views
Talmanes DomA - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1786 Views
I think you once again overestimate my appreciation of the series. Tom - 25/09/2012 02:33:34 PM 1329 Views
Re: Talmanes echooff - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 1206 Views
I'm disappointed after waiting a week for a new post in the Forsaken thread, it's about Talmanes! Shannow - 02/10/2012 09:46:48 PM 1375 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised DomA - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1596 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 1413 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand DomA - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 1406 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 1354 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring DomA - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1524 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1501 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? Marshall - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 1377 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1567 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam DomA - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1649 Views
I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 07:17:15 PM 1306 Views
Re: I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM DomA - 23/09/2012 08:19:02 PM 1309 Views
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM 1422 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1763 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 1247 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! Sidious - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 1317 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? Shannow - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 1386 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? DomA - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1465 Views
Interesting... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 1261 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1511 Views
I think we saw them during the attack on Maradon. The Portal Stone attack seems less likely darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 11:41:42 PM 1266 Views
Just one comment.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 1972 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 1298 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1374 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1576 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. Shannow - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 1197 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 1180 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 1285 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 1292 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 1289 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 1261 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways Shannow - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1319 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 1327 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? Shannow - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 1367 Views
I can certainly something like this happening darius_sedai - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 1170 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... DomA - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 1328 Views
I think ... Sidious - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 1271 Views
The changes in Moghedien darius_sedai - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 1150 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 1301 Views
Well.. fionwe1987 - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 1179 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... Shannow - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1485 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1222 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. Shannow - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1145 Views
Yes. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1117 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 1283 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1168 Views
Well... Shannow - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1132 Views
Re: Well... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1282 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. Shannow - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 1237 Views
Moiraine lost more than 2/3 of her strength. Siuan lost about that and Moiraine seems darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 04:46:18 PM 1364 Views
Re: Well... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1174 Views
Re: Well... Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1130 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1201 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength Sidious - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1205 Views
As always you forget book 4 is more than half way through the timeline of the series darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:58:22 AM 1289 Views
Actually...... DomA - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1293 Views
Agree with this.. Shannow - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1080 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 1128 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. DomA - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1302 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 1012 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1196 Views
Probably something like this Sidious - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 1243 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Shannow - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 1191 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... Sidious - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 1112 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 1336 Views
One thing about that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1222 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 1133 Views
The reason I think that... fionwe1987 - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 1200 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in darius_sedai - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 1250 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. Shannow - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 1317 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 1198 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1318 Views
That is the question I was getting at darius_sedai - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1245 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at kHz1000 - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1282 Views
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