Active Users:2258 Time:01/08/2026 02:00:44 PM
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM
to accomplish what you are talking about. The training alone would be almost impossible to achieve. even the BT only has a few dozen full Asha'man. Channeling is a skill that takes decades for most to master, creating an army of warriors from scratch would take a lot more time than he has had.

And to manage something like that in total secrecy seems nearly impossible. Eventually people will start to notice recruitment or strange disappearances. With the WT, BT and Seanchan already out recruiting it would be that much more difficult to build in mass numbers. Taim's men alone seem to have hit just about every village and town on the continent and stripped regions bare of men. Egwene and crew aren't that far behind now that rules are changing. And Demandred would be at a deeper disadvantage in that he would need to screen for people with a predilection toward the Shadow, that or force convert them, which takes resources and time and draws the attention of the other Chosen. Perhaps he has been on the Isle of Madmen and/or Shara/Seanchan recruiting ... Would at least explain his being so elusive to the other Forsaken.

Don't get me wrong, I like the concept to a point, but I don't see how he could have kept it hidden from the other Chosen as well as the Lightsiders for so long. And we know Moghedien and Graendal were both actively trying to discover what he was doing. It doesn't even sound like Moridin fully knows what Demandred is up to ...

“You will know the fruits I have harvested, Moridin,” Demandred said, voice low. “You will know them in bushels and droves. Just remember my requirement: I face al’Thor on the field of battle. His blood is mine, and no one else’s.”

Note he says you WILL know, not you DO know. I think Demandred is still relatively free to do as he wishes since he hasn't screwed anything up yet. My guess is that Moridin has far less control over him than he would like or they wouldn't be bargaining.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 23/09/2012 at 10:10:10 PM
Reply to message
AMOL Prologue : Analysis of Forsaken section *major spoilers* - 19/09/2012 05:47:21 PM 3523 Views
You left out that Taim and Demandred have met before. - 19/09/2012 06:19:01 PM 1739 Views
Part of me keeps screaming Logain, though that can't be right... - 20/09/2012 12:14:00 PM 1687 Views
I thought of Logain as well... - 20/09/2012 06:10:58 PM 1554 Views
We have our answer as to why Cyndane and Moiraine are reduced in power. - 20/09/2012 05:14:01 AM 1671 Views
It was spelled out before. - 20/09/2012 05:25:05 AM 1482 Views
And some of us guessed that's what happened, we just didn't have evidence. *NM* - 20/09/2012 12:04:18 PM 852 Views
Nor a lot of support for the idea... - 22/09/2012 06:28:14 PM 1489 Views
Really? Seemed like the obvious series of events - 23/09/2012 02:32:35 PM 1438 Views
I know... - 23/09/2012 05:30:42 PM 1516 Views
I'm not so sure - 24/09/2012 05:32:50 PM 1485 Views
Why question it? - 25/09/2012 01:40:39 AM 1317 Views
Re: Why question it? - 25/09/2012 06:12:32 AM 1313 Views
Six Chosen... - 20/09/2012 05:19:17 AM 1656 Views
It's fan fiction, but it's cannon fan fiction - 20/09/2012 06:55:18 AM 1699 Views
Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 20/09/2012 08:14:15 PM 1550 Views
RJ's writing was bad. Sanderson's is far worse. *NM* - 21/09/2012 06:19:04 AM 854 Views
Re: Demandred - the wasted Forsaken - 22/09/2012 07:23:19 PM 1431 Views
Talmanes - 23/09/2012 12:42:27 AM 1858 Views
Re: Talmanes - 02/10/2012 03:27:05 PM 1269 Views
Two interesting Forsaken issues you haven't raised - 22/09/2012 06:21:34 PM 1675 Views
Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 02:53:32 AM 1476 Views
Re: Seems to me that Taim himself was behind going to Rand - 23/09/2012 05:50:48 PM 1473 Views
I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring - 23/09/2012 06:35:19 PM 1432 Views
Re: I think I rebel against this thought process because of the Taimandred Red Herring - 23/09/2012 07:46:59 PM 1598 Views
The first time we hear about Transmigration is in LOC - 23/09/2012 08:50:10 PM 1578 Views
Why was Ishamael reinstantiated as Nae'blis after his death? - 02/10/2012 10:17:03 PM 1441 Views
I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 01:20:13 PM 1744 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 23/09/2012 06:52:10 PM 1725 Views
I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM - 23/09/2012 07:17:15 PM 1376 Views
Re: I agree that B-Sand seems to have inserted Graendal into the Slayer plot line in TOM - 23/09/2012 08:19:02 PM 1384 Views
EDIT ... Demandred has only had about 9 months (according to wotchron) - 23/09/2012 09:13:44 PM 1499 Views
Re: I have to wonder at Hessalam - 24/09/2012 05:18:29 PM 1832 Views
I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 03:22:56 AM 1320 Views
Re: I don't think she's old. Just really really really ugly! - 25/09/2012 06:13:51 AM 1400 Views
So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? Shara or Isle of Madmen back on the table? - 23/09/2012 08:01:03 PM 1458 Views
Re: So based on this new info, what is Demandred's big game? - 23/09/2012 08:52:48 PM 1540 Views
Interesting... - 23/09/2012 09:06:18 PM 1332 Views
Re: Interesting... - 23/09/2012 11:31:31 PM 1585 Views
Just one comment.. - 23/09/2012 11:53:09 PM 2039 Views
If I had to take a guess right now I'd say he has been setting up various Shadow armies thought the - 23/09/2012 09:30:34 PM 1365 Views
I think at the very least he has recreated the One-and-Eighty male channelers from the AOL... - 23/09/2012 09:34:56 PM 1445 Views
As I said he will almost certainly have Channelers - 23/09/2012 09:47:53 PM 1637 Views
All he needed to do was train 10 guys personally.. - 23/09/2012 09:51:46 PM 1286 Views
It took Taim nearly a year to train a dozen men to a place where they could teach - 23/09/2012 10:00:40 PM 1250 Views
The world is 25,000 miles by 25,000 miles in size... - 23/09/2012 10:15:22 PM 1364 Views
That is just far fetched ... I think I would laugh out loud if that is the case - 23/09/2012 10:43:37 PM 1356 Views
Direct quote from Demandred refutes this... - 23/09/2012 10:49:10 PM 1362 Views
Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 10:55:00 PM 1335 Views
Re: Demanded is much more like Mesaana in his ways - 23/09/2012 11:36:54 PM 1385 Views
Not really - 24/09/2012 12:31:48 AM 1404 Views
"My rule is secure." Could Demandred be ruling an entire Mirror World? - 23/09/2012 10:43:51 PM 1449 Views
I can certainly something like this happening - 23/09/2012 10:50:35 PM 1231 Views
I'm not sure it's possible... - 24/09/2012 03:02:26 AM 1392 Views
I think ... - 24/09/2012 05:36:38 PM 1338 Views
The changes in Moghedien - 25/09/2012 03:29:15 AM 1228 Views
I believe she commented on Graendal's strength, comparing it to Nynaeve or something? - 25/09/2012 11:07:24 PM 1371 Views
Well.. - 25/09/2012 11:15:21 PM 1253 Views
Thanks for the quote, but reading that, it kind of implies the opposite, to me... - 25/09/2012 11:35:53 PM 1557 Views
Hmmm.... - 26/09/2012 12:00:33 AM 1298 Views
Hehe, that old argument again. - 26/09/2012 12:09:25 AM 1225 Views
Yes. - 26/09/2012 12:58:03 AM 1193 Views
I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 04:11:16 AM 1370 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 26/09/2012 08:53:02 AM 1246 Views
Well... - 26/09/2012 09:09:38 AM 1207 Views
Re: Well... - 26/09/2012 10:17:03 AM 1355 Views
Nice speculation. I like that type of calculation. - 26/09/2012 10:59:43 AM 1315 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 03:12:06 AM 1252 Views
Re: Well... - 27/09/2012 08:17:07 AM 1207 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 03:00:04 AM 1284 Views
Re: I agree the Forsaken are all pretty close in effective Strength - 27/09/2012 07:23:11 AM 1294 Views
Actually...... - 26/09/2012 02:30:00 AM 1363 Views
Agree with this.. - 26/09/2012 06:12:34 AM 1151 Views
Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 06:42:51 AM 1206 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 26/09/2012 03:02:41 PM 1390 Views
This is what I've been saying for years! - 26/09/2012 05:48:01 PM 1085 Views
Re: Not sure that's completely true.. - 27/09/2012 03:17:00 AM 1259 Views
Probably something like this - 26/09/2012 08:36:40 AM 1318 Views
Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 08:56:32 AM 1255 Views
Re: Probably true, but maybe a hint from a Sanderson interview should be considered here... - 26/09/2012 10:01:08 AM 1178 Views
Graendal almost has to be Stronger than Nynaeve - 26/09/2012 05:57:35 PM 1409 Views
One thing about that... - 27/09/2012 02:58:56 AM 1292 Views
Possible, but I find it unlikely - 27/09/2012 06:16:56 AM 1206 Views
The reason I think that... - 27/09/2012 06:25:48 AM 1266 Views
I always assumed Nynaeve at the top was a list he later revised as he decided to bring in - 27/09/2012 06:39:35 AM 1335 Views
Of course that's the correct answer, yes. - 27/09/2012 08:12:45 AM 1384 Views
I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 03:45:36 AM 1265 Views
Re: I wasn't making a Strength comparison ... I was commenting on her lack of cowardice - 26/09/2012 05:30:36 PM 1386 Views
That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 06:00:03 PM 1311 Views
Re: That is the question I was getting at - 26/09/2012 07:01:34 PM 1347 Views

Reply to Message