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I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor Send a noteboard - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM
...is that these particular women (among the Forsaken) are not great generals. There may well be excellent women generals in the history of the Wheel of Time - but these ain't them.

Any conclusion beyond that requires more information, IMHO.
Former wotmaniac Rand al`Thor, 2001-2009. RIP wotmania...
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Are women really bad generals? Sidious - 01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM 1578 Views
I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM 872 Views
No. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM 1032 Views
Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... Shannow - 01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM 1106 Views
Lol... too true Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM 1030 Views
And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains? fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM 1043 Views
I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM 838 Views
Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM 812 Views
Re: Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:48:13 PM 739 Views
but you are difficult to please Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM 783 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:46:56 PM 744 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:17:21 AM 738 Views
But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM 734 Views
You can't have it both ways.... fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM 825 Views
Why not? Sidious - 02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM 795 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 04:27:00 PM 697 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:34:16 AM 806 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 03/10/2009 07:40:16 AM 744 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 05:07:51 PM 722 Views
Yeah Etzel - 01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 816 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM 809 Views
I thought the same in the past... Etzel - 02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM 779 Views
Gah! Hate! nossy - 02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM 789 Views
Ah, come on... Etzel - 02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM 776 Views
No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet. nossy - 02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM 780 Views
Yeah, I can understand that! Etzel - 03/10/2009 12:23:25 PM 633 Views
Unless... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM 833 Views
Re: Unless... Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:07:14 AM 869 Views
Well, it's entirely hypothetical, Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2009 06:31:32 AM 748 Views
Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM 865 Views
What about Mat and Ituralde? Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:28:49 AM 815 Views
Re: What about Mat and Ituralde? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:52:24 PM 746 Views
Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops beetnemesis - 01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM 752 Views
Further... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:14:44 AM 775 Views
But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM 739 Views
Just one point ^_^ RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/10/2009 12:51:50 AM 760 Views
Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it. beetnemesis - 04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM 718 Views
nope nossy - 01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM 882 Views
Re: nope Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:38 PM 966 Views
Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM 1171 Views
Birgitte's not a soldier though. Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM 765 Views
She says she's not, but so does Mat. nossy - 01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM 674 Views
Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM 816 Views
Right, which was what we were discussing at first. nossy - 02/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 751 Views
Yeah, I'm supporting your point about them both being generals RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 06:10:31 PM 770 Views
true, but she does pretty good NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:06:03 AM 815 Views
Oooh I forgot she's in charge of Elayne's lady guards. Darth_Katie - 02/10/2009 03:22:57 AM 692 Views
Egeanin or Leilwin nossy - 01/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 896 Views
A ship captain is like a calvary general NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:24:37 AM 749 Views
Right. Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM 749 Views
Well said. (And its short and to the point.) RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 03:54:23 AM 885 Views
Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician. RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM 793 Views
Isn't this more of an outgrowth or her respective specialty? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/10/2009 08:40:46 PM 720 Views
My opinion Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM 1188 Views
That's a poor excuse rAndy aL - 02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM 699 Views
That's a poor argument Cannoli - 02/10/2009 04:02:53 PM 947 Views
Re: That's a poor argument rAndy aL - 03/10/2009 04:26:55 AM 785 Views
I disagree nossy - 02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM 795 Views
Re: I disagree Cannoli - 02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM 1018 Views
Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM 945 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. Cannoli - 03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM 767 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. NaClH2O - 03/10/2009 08:26:27 PM 663 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM 3230 Views
I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way" Cannoli - 06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM 830 Views
And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM 918 Views
um nossy - 08/10/2009 07:36:52 PM 1059 Views
Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst RabidWombat - 04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM 880 Views
Men and football. nossy - 05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM 803 Views
She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders. Cannoli - 06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM 879 Views
It's the only thing men are allowed to do in Randland CupofDice - 02/10/2009 03:09:19 AM 786 Views
My thoughts LordPerrin - 02/10/2009 03:12:46 PM 714 Views
.... Fantasy - 04/10/2009 03:38:44 AM 715 Views
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