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Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin Send a noteboard - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM
Demandred and Moridin almost exclude themselves because of the low IQ of this military blunder.


Moridin, if you recall, got himself beaten by LTT/Rand multiple times. Demandred doesn't seem to have done noticeably better - we don't have tales of any grand defeats handed by him to LTT and I assume it's because he would have lost a direct engagement. It's a little hard for me to consider any of the Forsaken brilliant at this point. Oh well.

To paraphrase that Shania Twain song - "So you wrote some books? That don't impress me much."


And it isn't exactly peaches and cream in the Westlands right now. What more do you want from the man?
When the Wolf King carries the hammer, thus are the final days known. When the fox marries the raven, and the trumpets of battle are blown.
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Are women really bad generals? Sidious - 01/10/2009 07:05:03 PM 1850 Views
I think that all we can conclude from this... Rand al'Thor - 01/10/2009 07:39:49 PM 1031 Views
No. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 07:41:35 PM 1226 Views
Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... Shannow - 01/10/2009 08:40:47 PM 1290 Views
Lol... too true Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:29 PM 1195 Views
And you guys whine about the lameness of RJ's villains? fionwe1987 - 01/10/2009 09:41:54 PM 1283 Views
I still haven't seen proof of Demandred or Ishamael's "brilliance". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:56:41 PM 1009 Views
Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:25:37 AM 989 Views
Re: Ishamael's destroyed Civilization twice RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:48:13 PM 906 Views
but you are difficult to please Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:10:13 AM 975 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:46:56 PM 938 Views
Re: but you are difficult to please Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:17:21 AM 908 Views
But they are lame... they've done minimal damage to the Light Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:06:05 AM 911 Views
You can't have it both ways.... fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:47:21 AM 1005 Views
Why not? Sidious - 02/10/2009 08:45:35 AM 964 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 04:27:00 PM 911 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 06:34:16 AM 979 Views
Re: Why not? fionwe1987 - 03/10/2009 07:40:16 AM 965 Views
Re: Why not? Sidious - 03/10/2009 05:07:51 PM 938 Views
Yeah Etzel - 01/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 988 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 01/10/2009 10:40:28 PM 970 Views
I thought the same in the past... Etzel - 02/10/2009 07:01:18 AM 946 Views
Gah! Hate! nossy - 02/10/2009 04:11:49 PM 960 Views
Ah, come on... Etzel - 02/10/2009 04:41:37 PM 942 Views
No no, I was just being pouty that I haven't read the new stuff yet. nossy - 02/10/2009 05:01:15 PM 941 Views
Yeah, I can understand that! Etzel - 03/10/2009 12:23:25 PM 783 Views
Unless... Fanatic-Templar - 01/10/2009 10:49:55 PM 1033 Views
Re: Unless... Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:07:14 AM 1047 Views
Well, it's entirely hypothetical, Fanatic-Templar - 02/10/2009 06:31:32 AM 916 Views
Re: Or RJ just loves stacking ridiculously unfavourable odds against the male Forsaken generals... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 09:51:30 PM 1045 Views
What about Mat and Ituralde? Rurouni_Kenshin - 02/10/2009 04:28:49 AM 991 Views
Re: What about Mat and Ituralde? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 03:52:24 PM 903 Views
Good points! Also, these "generals" haven't actually fielded any troops beetnemesis - 01/10/2009 11:23:40 PM 929 Views
Further... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:14:44 AM 950 Views
But as individuals they are meant to be deadly too Sidious - 02/10/2009 05:09:21 AM 897 Views
Just one point ^_^ RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/10/2009 12:51:50 AM 931 Views
Well, yeah. They're knowledgable and deadly in person. Generalship doesn't come into it. beetnemesis - 04/10/2009 12:09:50 AM 901 Views
nope nossy - 01/10/2009 08:06:57 PM 1100 Views
Re: nope Sidious - 01/10/2009 09:32:38 PM 1142 Views
Tylee Kirgan, Birgitte, and one other, Egeanin NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 09:47:00 PM 1352 Views
Birgitte's not a soldier though. Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 10:10:50 PM 938 Views
She says she's not, but so does Mat. nossy - 01/10/2009 10:34:04 PM 849 Views
Mat's not a soldier, either - he's a general RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/10/2009 10:51:29 PM 976 Views
Right, which was what we were discussing at first. nossy - 02/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 913 Views
Yeah, I'm supporting your point about them both being generals RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 06:10:31 PM 980 Views
true, but she does pretty good NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:06:03 AM 986 Views
Oooh I forgot she's in charge of Elayne's lady guards. Darth_Katie - 02/10/2009 03:22:57 AM 864 Views
Egeanin or Leilwin nossy - 01/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 1101 Views
A ship captain is like a calvary general NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:24:37 AM 923 Views
Right. Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:36:59 AM 915 Views
Well said. (And its short and to the point.) RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 03:54:23 AM 1047 Views
Birgitte is too cautious to be better than an adequate tactician. RabidWombat - 02/10/2009 04:22:45 AM 988 Views
Isn't this more of an outgrowth or her respective specialty? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/10/2009 08:40:46 PM 892 Views
My opinion Cannoli - 02/10/2009 01:30:12 AM 1434 Views
That's a poor excuse rAndy aL - 02/10/2009 11:59:42 AM 877 Views
That's a poor argument Cannoli - 02/10/2009 04:02:53 PM 1168 Views
Re: That's a poor argument rAndy aL - 03/10/2009 04:26:55 AM 983 Views
I disagree nossy - 02/10/2009 04:26:28 PM 981 Views
Re: I disagree Cannoli - 02/10/2009 08:31:29 PM 1200 Views
Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 02/10/2009 09:09:30 PM 1139 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. Cannoli - 03/10/2009 04:52:37 PM 963 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. NaClH2O - 03/10/2009 08:26:27 PM 843 Views
Re: Oh, puh-lease. nossy - 05/10/2009 05:08:27 PM 3428 Views
I always know I've out-argued an idiot when they fall back on the tired old "RJ wanted it that way" Cannoli - 06/10/2009 04:42:11 AM 1044 Views
And I can tell you're through when you've gotten to three+ insults per paragraph. nossy - 06/10/2009 05:46:24 PM 1109 Views
um nossy - 08/10/2009 07:36:52 PM 1255 Views
Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst RabidWombat - 04/10/2009 07:28:36 AM 1052 Views
Men and football. nossy - 05/10/2009 04:49:35 PM 1008 Views
She didn't kill anyone! Why SHOULD she feel guilty? She gave necessary orders. Cannoli - 06/10/2009 03:33:15 AM 1065 Views
It's the only thing men are allowed to do in Randland CupofDice - 02/10/2009 03:09:19 AM 1005 Views
My thoughts LordPerrin - 02/10/2009 03:12:46 PM 886 Views
.... Fantasy - 04/10/2009 03:38:44 AM 907 Views
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