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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM
I think you are wrong to describe the harbour chain operation as stupidity on Egwene's part. I think, in retrospect, it will be seen as one of the momentous events in the series. With one bound, she was free, free of the machinations of the Shadow. Though nominally a prisoner, she became a free agent and look what happened. Mesaana's plans unravelled completely.

In real life, I am not a believer in conspiracy theories, but the whole series reeks of conspiracy. I am pretty sure that Rand has been entangled in a deep conspiracy more or less from the beginning and that many of his problems stem from that. I used to think that Verin (and Cadsuane) was part of that, but now obviously I have to rethink. If only I understood why Ishamael is so solicitous of Rand's life.

The Shadow (Ishamael) knew that it had to face up to Rand and long prepared for it. I believe that the advent of Egwene as a strong player in her own right is one of the turning points of the war precisely because she was not foreseen and was vastly underrated by the Shadow (and by readers too, I might add).

I too was led astray by all the three ta'veren business and relegated Egwene to the role of bit player. It now appears that, far from being a bit player, she is probably just as important as Rand and more so than Perrin or Mat. Readers are miffed, but a lot of it has been foreshadowed.

PS For a number of reasons, I believe that Egwene is fully ta'veren by now.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2918 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1266 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1215 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 707 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 1125 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1249 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1297 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 1131 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1314 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 1156 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 647 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 1134 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 1133 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1183 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 1152 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1706 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1368 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1364 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1240 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 1150 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1170 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1269 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1265 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 1103 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1365 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1153 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 1097 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1180 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1163 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 1104 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1209 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1187 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1314 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1382 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1245 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1278 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 1176 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1203 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1123 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 1160 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1242 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1293 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 1133 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1297 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 1087 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 1133 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1285 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 1135 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 1038 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1172 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1265 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1295 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1242 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1253 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 1062 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 525 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1143 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1324 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1246 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 1090 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1259 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 640 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1202 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1270 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1265 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1235 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1230 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1198 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1151 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1193 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1182 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1251 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 1095 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 1103 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 653 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1152 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 1127 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1332 Views

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