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Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM
I think you are wrong to describe the harbour chain operation as stupidity on Egwene's part. I think, in retrospect, it will be seen as one of the momentous events in the series. With one bound, she was free, free of the machinations of the Shadow. Though nominally a prisoner, she became a free agent and look what happened. Mesaana's plans unravelled completely.

In real life, I am not a believer in conspiracy theories, but the whole series reeks of conspiracy. I am pretty sure that Rand has been entangled in a deep conspiracy more or less from the beginning and that many of his problems stem from that. I used to think that Verin (and Cadsuane) was part of that, but now obviously I have to rethink. If only I understood why Ishamael is so solicitous of Rand's life.

The Shadow (Ishamael) knew that it had to face up to Rand and long prepared for it. I believe that the advent of Egwene as a strong player in her own right is one of the turning points of the war precisely because she was not foreseen and was vastly underrated by the Shadow (and by readers too, I might add).

I too was led astray by all the three ta'veren business and relegated Egwene to the role of bit player. It now appears that, far from being a bit player, she is probably just as important as Rand and more so than Perrin or Mat. Readers are miffed, but a lot of it has been foreshadowed.

PS For a number of reasons, I believe that Egwene is fully ta'veren by now.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2574 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 958 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 929 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 558 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 839 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 943 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1002 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 847 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1024 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 879 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 485 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 852 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 844 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 879 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 825 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1360 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1059 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1041 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 950 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 851 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 885 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 968 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 953 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 833 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1056 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 849 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 800 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 902 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 912 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 832 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 905 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 892 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 932 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1019 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 937 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 993 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 856 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 898 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 847 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 842 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 923 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1001 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 823 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 958 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 807 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 860 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 946 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 818 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 767 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 872 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 847 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 959 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 947 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 946 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 790 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 373 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 867 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1016 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 952 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 802 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 948 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 483 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 921 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 985 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 963 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 951 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 930 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 893 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 863 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 901 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 881 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 936 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 804 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 823 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 511 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 889 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 849 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1024 Views

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