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So? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM
.....as Rand figured out in tGS, "killing" without balefire is meaningless.

She was still prevented from capturing or killing Rand.

Anyway, if the actions of the characters are to be determined on the basis of new knowledge, Rand has been the most useless. As we know, the Dark One is the threat, and the Forsaken are only his pawns. Exactly what has Rand done to defeat the DO?
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1513 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 1089 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 534 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 868 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 411 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 436 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 417 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 423 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 415 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 1065 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 835 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 861 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 987 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 954 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 897 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 878 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 837 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 912 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 871 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 813 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2274 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1606 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 900 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 805 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 467 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 806 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 1052 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 857 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 851 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 478 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 961 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 838 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 393 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 517 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 865 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 777 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 852 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 785 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 760 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 798 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 783 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 864 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 755 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 724 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 921 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 800 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 765 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 755 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 1004 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 848 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 887 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 834 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 809 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 929 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 1028 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 732 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 803 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 793 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 908 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 766 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 377 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 794 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 748 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 827 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 801 Views
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