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Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM
I decided to make a new post because there are over a hundred views in the previous post and it's getting crowded. Thanks to Shannow and all the debating there - I loved all the bickering.


I love how the post had DEFINITIVE in all caps, but it's full of hemming and hawing and maybes and arguing.

Let me start off by saying that Brandon seems like a nice guy, but he shoots from the hip. He's answering things incorrectly and causing all manner of scandals. If we didn't know better about Cyndane, we'd all be in a fuss, but he's making major errors in his answers. I also find it very unlikely that the guy knows the strength tree to any reasonable degree. I'm sure he knows some landmarks, but his own words show that he's 'reasonably' this 'pretty sure' that. It's all very vague and unreliable information. It would actually be better to get a RAFO than to get wrong information based on guessing.


He may have access to things we do not, but when he is unable to look at that information, he's a lot like the rest of us. A fan who is fallible and prone to error when trying to explain minutiae from memory. I have a theory about his "little detail from books 4-6" that addresses this in part as well.

As for the OP rankings, I'm not sold on anybody's list so far.


I agree, because mostly it seems that the list has changed as the series went on, sometimes as the wind blows. Nynaeve went from "Holy crap" to "LOL so last year" back to "OMG didn't you know shes badass?".

I don't ever remember reading about the two Nynaeve strength lists (before\after or whatever) as a comment from RJ on wotmania, but I think that illustrates how other relative strengths may have changed.

I'm still harping on it but I hate that the whole Dexterity side seems to have gone by the wayside.
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Female Forsaken strength : a new post Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:12:35 PM 1994 Views
Except... Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:26:32 PM 1010 Views
There's no evidence for that Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:31:17 PM 984 Views
I agree with Sidious - we have no evidence at this time, so she should remain off the list kcf - 19/11/2009 04:38:31 PM 975 Views
It's common sense Etzel - 19/11/2009 04:40:01 PM 896 Views
No, it's based on absolutely nothing Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:50:30 PM 1032 Views
If you agree that there are stronger damane than Alivia... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:00:05 PM 884 Views
I didn't say that Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:07:33 PM 940 Views
Well, I think you are wrong... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:35:27 PM 921 Views
Glad to have you back. Now for the arguments to start! Shannow - 19/11/2009 04:29:01 PM 1057 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:47:12 PM 1057 Views
Actually, you are the one placing Lanfear immensely high, my list reduced the strength difference... Shannow - 19/11/2009 05:05:18 PM 1135 Views
But I'm not Sidious - 19/11/2009 05:17:05 PM 1014 Views
Let me ask you this... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:13:12 PM 1067 Views
Very good point *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 01:38:55 AM 464 Views
One possibility Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 03:18:55 AM 987 Views
All assumption Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:11:20 AM 952 Views
Why introduce that concept, if it is just of academic importance? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:41:54 AM 877 Views
You don't know the significance of it at all Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:14:46 PM 1017 Views
Why? Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:17:51 PM 1547 Views
Re: Why? Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:30:50 PM 913 Views
How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:07:39 PM 903 Views
Re: How can you argue in such a way and still keep a straight face (presumably)... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:55:47 AM 912 Views
Is Graendal the only Forsaken NOT to overstate her own ability then? Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:53:28 PM 1027 Views
Probably not in this case Sidious - 21/11/2009 11:34:25 PM 897 Views
Your rankings hinge ENTIRELY on whether you have Graendal correctly placed. Logain - 20/11/2009 03:24:22 PM 921 Views
Yeah... entirely Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:33:45 PM 874 Views
Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Logain - 20/11/2009 09:57:52 PM 901 Views
Re: Okay, "entirely" was a bad choice of word. Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:48:16 AM 992 Views
Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:30:27 PM 942 Views
*correction*Re: Let me ask you this... lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:32:02 PM 906 Views
my comments w/ edit kcf - 19/11/2009 04:37:27 PM 976 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit Sidious - 19/11/2009 04:54:30 PM 1058 Views
Re: my comments w/ edit lyringlas - 23/12/2009 04:42:15 PM 838 Views
What ever happened to all teh info from wotmania? Especially the FAQs? *NM* callandor1000 - 19/11/2009 05:01:45 PM 613 Views
http://13depository.blogspot.com/ *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:31:01 PM 481 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 05:39:10 PM 992 Views
Re: Female Forsaken strength : a new post -- What about Dexterity?? Tedtheman - 19/11/2009 06:44:31 PM 1007 Views
This perfectly matches my understanding of the situation. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 07:06:31 PM 863 Views
Seems good, except I'd bunch up the upper levels and place Nynaeve a little higher. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 09:46:16 PM 508 Views
Agreed! This make more sense than the previous list *NM* Basara - 20/11/2009 12:07:37 AM 519 Views
Too many levels Rurouni_Kenshin - 20/11/2009 01:48:24 AM 980 Views
You are completely right about too many levels. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:17:17 AM 870 Views
21 levels is largely a myth kcf - 20/11/2009 04:27:27 AM 910 Views
Re: 21 levels is largely a myth DomA - 20/11/2009 01:51:17 PM 1004 Views
Thanks for the post. Interesting stuff there. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:14:12 PM 444 Views
That's good to know. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 07:56:41 PM 857 Views
I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. Logain - 20/11/2009 04:14:40 AM 1027 Views
I thought of something else to support my upper limit theory on gateways Logain - 20/11/2009 01:53:05 PM 1033 Views
Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 08:27:22 PM 1126 Views
Re: Talaan is not stronger than Nynaeve Logain - 28/11/2009 10:05:15 PM 1131 Views
Talaan has be channeling for 6 or 7 years darius_sedai - 28/11/2009 10:56:12 PM 906 Views
Re: I have to disagree for a couple of reasons. taura-tierno - 30/12/2009 12:37:40 AM 1341 Views
Agree with nearly all Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:43:47 AM 848 Views
more hopefully to come kcf - 20/11/2009 08:15:00 PM 829 Views
Thanks KCF, that's a great question to ask. Shannow - 20/11/2009 08:28:32 PM 1086 Views
I'm the same way. I should be studying for law school finals, but I'm distracted. *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 09:45:46 PM 415 Views
A little more evidence that Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 12:12:37 AM 931 Views
I agree that Graendal is the 2nd most powerful woman Forsaken darius_sedai - 29/11/2009 04:07:00 PM 840 Views
It's possible Logain - 30/11/2009 08:23:28 PM 892 Views
Re: It's possible darius_sedai - 01/12/2009 06:18:56 PM 961 Views
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