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No. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM
A villain who takes power from pain is hardly suspenseful at all. In fact, Semirhage was quite predictable (and pretty dumb, given KoD's events).

What tGS showed was that aside from Moridin, the "chosen" are exactly as Verin described - selfish, arrogant children.

The REAL suspense comes not from the cardboard villains, but from the should-be heroes. Rand al'Thor nearly destroying the Borderlander army is far, far scarier than Semi ever was. And when he strangles Min, and then nearly kills Tam - well, honestly, is there any fear more deep-seated than that of loved ones turning on us?
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3102 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1604 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1514 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 688 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1305 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1226 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 576 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1314 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1286 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1223 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1185 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1269 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1114 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1082 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 623 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1084 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1097 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 1044 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1205 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1271 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1125 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1176 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 552 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1164 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1074 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1157 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1074 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1138 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1037 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1199 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1171 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1319 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 622 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1266 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 671 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1139 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1140 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1196 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1139 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1102 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1083 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1133 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1112 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1163 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1071 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1188 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 1018 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1054 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1146 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1072 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1046 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 1023 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1110 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 899 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1179 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 616 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1152 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1229 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1058 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 610 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1242 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 705 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1285 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1071 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1086 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1098 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 956 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 1036 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1063 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1169 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1205 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1118 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1103 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1119 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1116 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1192 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 1014 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1078 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 1049 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1085 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8420 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1070 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1153 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1388 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 997 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1155 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1166 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1100 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1380 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1076 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 943 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1207 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1068 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1280 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1113 Views
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