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I don't think those would work rAndy aL Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 07:03:38 AM
I wonder why Verin had to die. I mean could she not just have drank the poison and told all this while she was with Rand. Rand could then have had Nynaeve to heal her afterwards.


Well, if she was expecting to live, then it wouldn't be the hour of her death. Rand doesn't have very good relations with most Aes Sedai, so he also isn't a good choice for revealing the BA to.

Or better yet, have someone still her. That would free her of all oaths. Then she could have had Flinn heal her and presto, oath free Black Ajah with a bonus of extra lifespan.


How exactly was she supposed to do this without revealing the DO's secrets? She also wasn't sure if the Oath Rod could be used to remove her Oaths, so she might not be able to ask for stilling in the first place.

Even if she really wanted to die out of guilt or something, why not just overchannel enough power to burn herself out. She could then have had many hours or days to describe plans of the Shadow in detail and answer questions. And only THEN commit suicide.


Not that easily. She would also run a big risk of killing herself outright, without revealing anything. Her letters also could not have been left, since she was assuming she could collect them again if she didn't die.

I don't think the sisters Rand stilled and who were healed tried to hide the fact that they were released from the oaths so Verin should have known of this loophole.

This felt a bit like a cheap way to boost Egwene at Verin's expense. Unless ofcourse Verin faked her death. That would be great.


That would be stupid. And impossible.
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I finished tGS last night... and really had to come back to you all. Phelix - 09/12/2009 02:11:05 AM 1821 Views
You bring up some good points BlackAdder - 09/12/2009 03:20:37 AM 1302 Views
What if Verin really WAS Black? Lord Haart - 09/12/2009 03:32:07 PM 1112 Views
Pretty much agree with you. Great Lord of Chaos - 09/12/2009 03:21:08 AM 1063 Views
Hey, long time no see. Glad you're back! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 03:28:50 AM 579 Views
Good to see you too, F-T. *NM* Phelix - 17/12/2009 09:58:26 PM 451 Views
Silly Verin! She did not need to die. Datakim - 09/12/2009 03:53:23 AM 1187 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. TheUltimateReality - 09/12/2009 06:11:02 AM 1072 Views
And does she know that Stilling breaks the Oaths? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 06:16:54 AM 502 Views
She should. Some of the Aes Sedai who swore to Rand had been Stilled and then Restored by Flinn. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:18:10 PM 1037 Views
Then, wouldn't the BA/Shadow just kill her off? I think it'd be kind of obvious what she did. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 09/12/2009 03:23:05 PM 656 Views
I think that's beyond the BA's capabilities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:48:03 PM 910 Views
Doesn't mean they experimented with it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/12/2009 08:48:23 PM 957 Views
Rebels had no reason to research a way to break the oaths. Verin did. Datakim - 10/12/2009 02:00:21 AM 1012 Views
You're going at it upside-down. Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 02:33:41 AM 981 Views
Verin should have figured it out Datakim - 10/12/2009 03:03:14 AM 975 Views
Why? Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 04:15:45 AM 964 Views
I was just rereading that section yesterday.... Light in the Night - 10/12/2009 10:52:23 AM 1169 Views
It all seems intuitively obvious to me! Datakim - 10/12/2009 07:58:46 PM 1137 Views
Will you please look at your argument? Fanatic-Templar - 10/12/2009 09:40:42 PM 1009 Views
Re: It all seems intuitively obvious to me! Light in the Night - 11/12/2009 07:38:17 AM 1019 Views
The damn Oath Rod! Datakim - 12/12/2009 01:32:47 AM 1153 Views
Just having motivation is not enough redhand - 11/12/2009 03:52:40 PM 1065 Views
Agreed, you also need a working brain. Where did Verin's go? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:54:17 AM 868 Views
I don't think those would work rAndy aL - 09/12/2009 07:03:38 AM 991 Views
She should and could have found a better way. Datakim - 09/12/2009 07:41:28 AM 1013 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:16:27 PM 876 Views
Re: She should and could have found a better way. rAndy aL - 10/12/2009 12:13:40 AM 1012 Views
Re: She should and could have found a better way. Datakim - 10/12/2009 02:30:14 AM 991 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. Gerbeaud - 09/12/2009 08:44:31 PM 1095 Views
There is also this small problem of Tower Law redhand - 10/12/2009 08:24:55 AM 856 Views
I always thought Masema was an irritating distraction and was glad he was killed quickly. Tom - 09/12/2009 03:53:44 AM 1027 Views
Yes, Masema was a bore. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:13:40 PM 1031 Views
Re: I always thought Masema was an irritating distraction and was glad he was killed quickly. @my - 09/12/2009 04:21:35 PM 1372 Views
Agreed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 09/12/2009 09:25:02 PM 541 Views
Sidious - 09/12/2009 04:44:10 AM 1063 Views
Re: Gerbeaud - 09/12/2009 08:13:24 PM 1085 Views
Hey Mark. Phelix - 17/12/2009 10:00:58 PM 998 Views
Great to see you again! vandevere - 09/12/2009 05:01:01 AM 1206 Views
Yep, and Sheriam ended up losing a finger or two in the process. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/12/2009 03:49:45 PM 1041 Views
Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? *NM* lord-of-shadow - 09/12/2009 06:07:08 AM 656 Views
Re: Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? TheUltimateReality - 09/12/2009 06:13:22 AM 904 Views
It's great to see you around again! Seriana Sedai - 09/12/2009 07:06:45 AM 1027 Views
:'( j-whitt987 - 09/12/2009 11:29:03 PM 976 Views
Good to see you too. Phelix - 17/12/2009 10:01:57 PM 1030 Views
Re: Good to see you too. Seriana Sedai - 19/12/2009 06:12:11 AM 977 Views
Hee... gotta love zoos. Phelix - 19/12/2009 06:18:35 AM 947 Views
Mine added up to many vet bills this week. Seriana Sedai - 19/12/2009 07:22:40 AM 965 Views
Eeeep! Bills are not good! Phelix - 19/12/2009 07:24:36 AM 931 Views
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LMAO! Phelix - 20/12/2009 08:25:02 AM 831 Views
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