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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
And for example Lanfear and Asmo were also quite nomadic, just causing chaos. We also don't know what Balthamel or Aginor had done, if they hadn't been killed.


Graendal had a base of operations in AD, but she obviously had her fingers in other areas (ala Shara) ...

Semirhage and Mesaana are similar cases in that they seemed to have been assigned a task.

IMO Demandred was likely running around in various areas stirring up whatever chaos he could. I'd say he had a hand in the Dragon Sworn and possibly could have had a hand in the Borderlanders defection.

Contrary to Sidious' thought, IMO, the Dragon Sworn were a scourge for over half the series! The entire Southwest region of the continent has been swarming with them since tGH... destabilizing Ghealdan, Tarabon, Almoth Plain Arad Domon, and to a lesser degree Murrandy, Altara and Amadicia.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1173 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 580 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 585 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 544 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 804 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 548 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 564 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 557 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 242 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 250 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 237 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 508 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 496 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 512 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 484 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 574 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 535 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 512 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 561 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 518 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 589 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 497 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 485 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 532 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 482 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 500 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 666 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 535 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 538 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 488 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 501 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 519 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 233 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 501 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 237 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 247 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 482 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 493 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 494 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 472 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 468 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 563 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 525 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 425 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 484 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 493 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 885 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 502 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 501 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 548 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 507 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 486 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 495 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 593 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 468 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 506 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 447 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 489 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 207 Views
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