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As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel Send a noteboard - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM
Compared to the Shadowspawn in the Blight, the Asha'man in the Black Tower, the Aiel or the Seanchan, who cares about Murandy?


Bryne said that Murandy has considerable numbers of men. People like Rand and Elayne don't seem to think that Murandy is insignificant.

And if Demandred has additionally many or most of those Dragonsworn bands under his control, which are all over the west of the Westlands, he could provoke even more chaos to support the Shadowspawn armies plus Taim & cronies and other DF.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1297 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 683 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 710 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 642 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 916 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 656 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 670 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 679 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 296 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 320 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 286 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 618 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 595 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 658 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 608 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 694 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 643 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 648 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 715 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 621 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 691 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 602 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 596 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 631 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 603 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 612 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 800 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 669 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 644 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 604 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 609 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 625 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 281 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 613 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 295 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 297 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 608 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 597 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 609 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 603 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 555 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 683 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 626 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 519 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 579 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 595 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 1002 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 612 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 620 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 645 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 621 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 585 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 602 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 724 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 569 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 617 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 559 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 611 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 251 Views
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