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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
And for example Lanfear and Asmo were also quite nomadic, just causing chaos. We also don't know what Balthamel or Aginor had done, if they hadn't been killed.


Graendal had a base of operations in AD, but she obviously had her fingers in other areas (ala Shara) ...

Semirhage and Mesaana are similar cases in that they seemed to have been assigned a task.

IMO Demandred was likely running around in various areas stirring up whatever chaos he could. I'd say he had a hand in the Dragon Sworn and possibly could have had a hand in the Borderlanders defection.

Contrary to Sidious' thought, IMO, the Dragon Sworn were a scourge for over half the series! The entire Southwest region of the continent has been swarming with them since tGH... destabilizing Ghealdan, Tarabon, Almoth Plain Arad Domon, and to a lesser degree Murrandy, Altara and Amadicia.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1368 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 740 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 773 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 703 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 988 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 709 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 733 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 745 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 325 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 355 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 325 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 686 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 659 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 729 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 670 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 767 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 707 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 716 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 790 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 684 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 752 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 662 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 654 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 693 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 667 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 672 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 871 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 732 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 708 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 667 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 675 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 692 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 314 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 679 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 331 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 326 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 668 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 669 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 664 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 665 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 636 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 746 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 680 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 583 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 644 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 663 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 1076 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 677 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 674 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 708 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 692 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 633 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 671 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 795 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 632 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 677 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 613 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 674 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 285 Views
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