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Well... Etzel Send a noteboard - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM
My immediate thoughts always took me to Graendal since she was already involved with the Caemlyn Palace and later in the series we see her loot Sammael's palace... and Asmo's reaction and instant death speak of a Channeler to me ... but the evidence is thin for any of the suspects IMO.

"The careful reader" is easy enough to say several books after it's been pointed out that he is specifically an assassin... up until then the clues we're given just point that he's a high-level DF who is tasked with killing Fain. Certainly in hind-sight it seems obvious.


I think it was definitely clear since TSR that Slayer must be more than a high-level DF, especially considering his powers, Birgitte saying his evil is ancient and the stanza about him in the Dark Prophecy calling Isam and Luc the Shadow's hounds ("Luc came to the Mountains of Dhoom. Isam waited in the high passes. The hunt is now begun. The Shadow's hounds now course, and kill. One did live, and one did die, but both are. The Time of Change has come." ). The clues are there.

On the other hand, Graendal had less screen time and was much less mentioned before LoC than Isam & Luc (or Slayer).

Anyway, we will see, this thread was after all actually about Fain's Myrddraal. ;)
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 2163 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 627 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 598 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 1129 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 1120 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 1137 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 1354 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 1113 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 1179 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 1075 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 1337 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 1267 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 2203 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 1057 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 1108 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 539 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 1032 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 1093 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 1157 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 1117 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 1123 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 1256 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 1043 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 1032 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 1141 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 1055 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 1026 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 935 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 1028 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 934 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 976 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 1030 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 1087 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 978 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 1020 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 1252 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 980 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 943 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 1053 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 1145 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 1114 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 1037 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 1004 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 1130 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 1137 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 1296 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 1234 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 1111 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 1340 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 558 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 1152 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 1066 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 1272 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 1243 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 972 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 1061 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 939 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 1047 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 900 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 998 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 521 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 865 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 1110 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 1234 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 1128 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 1027 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 946 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 923 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 593 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 1253 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 1034 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 1017 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 1039 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 1097 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 1095 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 984 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 590 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 546 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 520 Views
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