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I think... Etzel Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM
That Isam might have been raised by Farstrider and his wife in the Malkieri ways till a certain age. Then Ishy took over his education and turned him into a follower of the Shadow. Eventually the DO merged Isam and Luc (who I don't think was a DF at this time) into Slayer. It seems indicative that Slayer is called "Isam" by associates of the Shadow, namely Moridin and the Trollocs.

Hopefully Verin's notes or Noal will shed more light on Slayer in the next books.
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 2162 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 627 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 598 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 1128 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 1120 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 1136 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 1354 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 1113 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 1179 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 1075 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 1336 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 1266 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 2202 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 1057 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 1107 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 539 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 1032 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 1092 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 1156 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 1117 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 1122 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 1255 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 1043 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 1032 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 1141 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 1055 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 1026 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 934 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 1027 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 934 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 976 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 1030 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 1086 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 977 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 1020 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 1252 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 979 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 942 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 1052 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 1144 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 1114 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 1037 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 1004 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 1130 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 1137 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 1295 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 1234 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 1111 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 1340 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 558 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 1152 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 1066 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 1272 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 1243 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 972 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 1060 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 939 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 1047 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 900 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 998 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 521 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 865 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 1110 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 1234 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 1128 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 1027 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 946 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 922 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 593 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 1253 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 1033 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 1017 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 1039 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 1097 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 1094 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 984 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 590 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 546 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 520 Views
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