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Re: No way. Shishka Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM
1) Objects don't have threads in the Pattern, so destroying the angreal doesn't undo anything, it just destroys the angreal.


This seems to be a bone of contention. See Datakim's post above, for evidence to the contrary.

2) Why would Graendal ever take it off? It's a ring, she can wear it 24/10, and I would be very surprised if she didn't.


That's a good point. If it were a bulky statue or something, you could see her putting it down. But a ring, in a situation where she would presumably have been more cautious/alert than normal? It does seem unlikely.

Graendal is dead. I actually didn't get a huge letdown over her death. I can't really think of any other way for Rand to get rid of her. She was smarter than him, and she was never going to stand and fight him. He beat her.


I don't have a problem with Graendal's death in this manner, either. I was just trying to think of a plausible way she may still be alive. But, all the feedback I'm getting is making me think that my "plausible" way is not so "plausible" after all. :)
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Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 05:44:12 PM 2724 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) randfandom - 05/01/2010 06:46:19 PM 1454 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:15:41 PM 1336 Views
Nynaeve's boat... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:23:57 PM 1272 Views
Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1194 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1109 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4863 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1109 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1158 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1085 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 1048 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1077 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 1040 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1133 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1188 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1068 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1166 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1267 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1066 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 571 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1100 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 1031 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 1010 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1290 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1116 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1162 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1166 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 565 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1313 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1185 Views
Re: Clearly dead Datakim - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM 1094 Views
I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 1128 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1174 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 1048 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 1124 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 548 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 1022 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 1031 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 571 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 557 Views
I think she's alive. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:12:50 PM 1087 Views
Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1162 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1140 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 1063 Views
Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM 1107 Views
What if.. Tweak - 06/01/2010 10:41:44 PM 1034 Views
I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 1023 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1263 Views
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