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Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM
Then again, they'd have to, since otherwise time wouldn't flow in places where there are no living things... Confusing, a bit.


It seems you equate "time flow" with "threads", which I'm not sure I understand.

Regardless though, when we see the Brown Ajah section of the WT switch places with the Novice section, we see physical objects (wall stones, floor tiles, tapestries, etc.) MOVE with respect to other objects. And it's hard for me to imagine how that could occur (given my admittedly limited understanding of what the Pattern actually is) if those objects didn't have threads.

Anyway, as to balefire affecting objects, I'm pretty sure it doesn't - we have several examples of balefiring objects and the things on top of them falling to the ground, such as Rand against Rahvin (The Threads Burn) or Jeaine Caide wielding that balefire ter'angreal in the Panarch's Palace (Into the Palace). If objects were balefired back in time, those things would already be on the ground.


By "affecting", I guess you mean that balefire doesn't cause objects to cease to exist backwards in time. I'd have to go back and read the examples you cited to be sure, but I assume you're right about them. Seems a bit odd that object threads would react differently to balefire than living threads, but if that's the way it is, who am I to argue?
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Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 05:44:12 PM 2695 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) randfandom - 05/01/2010 06:46:19 PM 1429 Views
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Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1167 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1085 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4840 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1079 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1136 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1056 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 1027 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1048 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 1016 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1101 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1157 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1042 Views
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USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1237 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1041 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 558 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1069 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 1005 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 967 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1264 Views
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Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1138 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1138 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 553 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1282 Views
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Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 536 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 993 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 1008 Views
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Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1238 Views
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