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Re: Clearly dead Datakim Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM

Presumably, the balefire stream Rand used to kill Semirhage & Elza was narrow - narrow enough that it only hit them, not the bracelets. Whereas, the balefire stream Rand used to destroy the palace was HUGELY WIDE - wide enough to wipe out the entire palace and everything in it, presumably. I don't have the book in front of me, but I recall that it was said that there was nothing left where the palace had been standing.


I am pretty sure the way it was described was that the balefire stream was NOT wide and large enough to encompass the entire place. But rather that the palace somehow "absorbed" the balefire energy and started glowing from that. I think the term was "breathed in". And then when it had absorbed enough the whole place vanished in an instant. That is completely unlike balefire we have seen before.

Either BS wrote it differently, or this was somekind of new type of balefire. I suppose you could argue that Rand used LTT knowledge to modify the balefire weave but there was no mention of it. I figure BS just wrote it differently. This causes a lot of confusion. I am not entirely convinced that BS and RJ views on balefire are identical.
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Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1236 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1159 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4901 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1148 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1203 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 1120 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 1110 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 1112 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 1076 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1177 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1254 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 1114 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1221 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1307 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 1111 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 593 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1141 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 1091 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 1061 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1331 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1152 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1214 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1209 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 591 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1355 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1246 Views
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I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 1168 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1220 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 1091 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 1163 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 576 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 1063 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 1070 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 614 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 579 Views
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Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1201 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1180 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 1116 Views
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I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 1071 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1306 Views
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