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Re: Clearly dead Datakim Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM

Presumably, the balefire stream Rand used to kill Semirhage & Elza was narrow - narrow enough that it only hit them, not the bracelets. Whereas, the balefire stream Rand used to destroy the palace was HUGELY WIDE - wide enough to wipe out the entire palace and everything in it, presumably. I don't have the book in front of me, but I recall that it was said that there was nothing left where the palace had been standing.


I am pretty sure the way it was described was that the balefire stream was NOT wide and large enough to encompass the entire place. But rather that the palace somehow "absorbed" the balefire energy and started glowing from that. I think the term was "breathed in". And then when it had absorbed enough the whole place vanished in an instant. That is completely unlike balefire we have seen before.

Either BS wrote it differently, or this was somekind of new type of balefire. I suppose you could argue that Rand used LTT knowledge to modify the balefire weave but there was no mention of it. I figure BS just wrote it differently. This causes a lot of confusion. I am not entirely convinced that BS and RJ views on balefire are identical.
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Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 1097 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 1037 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4783 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 1020 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 1071 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 999 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 969 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 998 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 961 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 1049 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 1086 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 999 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 1066 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 1184 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 992 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 520 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 1017 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 952 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 895 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 1203 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 1045 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 1086 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 1070 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 528 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 1218 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 1094 Views
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I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 1051 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 1109 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 976 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 1050 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 505 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 946 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 955 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 501 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 514 Views
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Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 1089 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 1048 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 987 Views
Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM 1031 Views
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I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 952 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 1191 Views
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