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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
Was Semirhage broken? Maybe I did not read the scene carefully enough but my impression was that she did not like the experience i.e. being spanked and her face shoved into the food, she cried, asked them to stop etc but afterwars she was as defient as ever.

Given more time Cadsuane may have fully broken Semirhage but if you compare her situation to the training of a damane, once a damane is freed she does not want to do anything without an order from the Sul'dam. Semirhage was no where near that state.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1251 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 681 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 255 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 514 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 537 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 225 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 572 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 502 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 461 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 552 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 462 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 557 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 527 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 489 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 444 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 480 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 471 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 506 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 591 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 238 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 228 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 234 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 267 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 558 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 550 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 428 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 563 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 534 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 537 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 499 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 241 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 462 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 248 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 400 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 494 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 539 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 222 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 476 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 520 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 522 Views
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