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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
Was Semirhage broken? Maybe I did not read the scene carefully enough but my impression was that she did not like the experience i.e. being spanked and her face shoved into the food, she cried, asked them to stop etc but afterwars she was as defient as ever.

Given more time Cadsuane may have fully broken Semirhage but if you compare her situation to the training of a damane, once a damane is freed she does not want to do anything without an order from the Sul'dam. Semirhage was no where near that state.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1466 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 893 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 344 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 732 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 749 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 322 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 776 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 764 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 690 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 774 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 692 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 775 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 732 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 741 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 645 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 770 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 685 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 738 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 805 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 326 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 323 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 320 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 356 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 781 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 812 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 659 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 771 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 755 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 793 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 733 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 333 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 686 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 334 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 643 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 744 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 729 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 314 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 688 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 730 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 790 Views
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