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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
Was Semirhage broken? Maybe I did not read the scene carefully enough but my impression was that she did not like the experience i.e. being spanked and her face shoved into the food, she cried, asked them to stop etc but afterwars she was as defient as ever.

Given more time Cadsuane may have fully broken Semirhage but if you compare her situation to the training of a damane, once a damane is freed she does not want to do anything without an order from the Sul'dam. Semirhage was no where near that state.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1534 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 972 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 372 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 811 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 816 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 353 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 839 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 830 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 753 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 848 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 766 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 857 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 801 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 812 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 712 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 836 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 737 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 804 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 876 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 352 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 351 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 359 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 390 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 847 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 889 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 734 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 844 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 821 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 884 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 817 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 358 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 749 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 362 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 740 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 824 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 796 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 345 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 755 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 802 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 885 Views
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