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Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM
Was Semirhage broken? Maybe I did not read the scene carefully enough but my impression was that she did not like the experience i.e. being spanked and her face shoved into the food, she cried, asked them to stop etc but afterwars she was as defient as ever.

Given more time Cadsuane may have fully broken Semirhage but if you compare her situation to the training of a damane, once a damane is freed she does not want to do anything without an order from the Sul'dam. Semirhage was no where near that state.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1404 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 830 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 314 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 662 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 684 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 288 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 715 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 662 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 614 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 701 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 612 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 709 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 673 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 638 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 565 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 676 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 621 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 673 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 736 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 296 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 291 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 295 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 325 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 708 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 728 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 588 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 706 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 677 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 691 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 647 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 302 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 621 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 301 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 550 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 652 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 664 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 280 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 620 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 673 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 688 Views
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