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That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
BS was only 85 % certain that the strength is only related to the body, but he might think that there is a 15 % chance that in some case also the soul is a factor (e.g. the Dragon Soul). In any case, he seems certain that the body is always a factor, which would fit with the Lanfear & Cyndane-phenomenon.


That's not how I interpret that quote you provided, but you got me thinking ... I believe the quote you provided was BS talking about souls being reborn the "normal" way. So maybe BS is 100% certain that the strength of transmigrated souls can be affected by the body into which they are transmigrated (because that's what happened to Cyndane), but is only 85% certain that the same is true of souls born the "normal" way.

I think that interpretation would fit his comment.


We'd have heard by now if she was weaker in her new body than in her old one. But who knows ... anything is possible at this point :)
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 3005 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1334 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 1133 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 1049 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 1100 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 1030 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 1042 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 1009 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 966 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1186 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 1058 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1155 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 1008 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 1098 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 951 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1366 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1169 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 1118 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 1034 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1159 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 1099 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 619 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 580 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 1078 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 1078 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 1070 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 1079 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 1067 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 991 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 1048 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 1105 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 1058 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1253 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 1068 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 1061 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 1079 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 941 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 1125 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 836 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 1082 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 1065 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 1082 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 1091 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 1051 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 959 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 1146 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 1092 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 1108 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 1131 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 1071 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 1067 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 1081 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 1000 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 977 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 959 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 1103 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 897 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 588 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 1139 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 1083 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 1088 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1339 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1191 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 941 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 1083 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1319 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 1031 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 1015 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1134 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 979 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 944 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 1089 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 634 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 1043 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 971 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 994 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 674 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1324 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 1065 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 1064 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 974 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1143 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 1006 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 1136 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 889 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 855 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 1003 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 912 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 1022 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 1120 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1261 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 538 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 1047 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 1092 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1215 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 909 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 1071 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 992 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 1025 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1208 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 1043 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 645 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 558 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 574 Views
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