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That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM
BS was only 85 % certain that the strength is only related to the body, but he might think that there is a 15 % chance that in some case also the soul is a factor (e.g. the Dragon Soul). In any case, he seems certain that the body is always a factor, which would fit with the Lanfear & Cyndane-phenomenon.


That's not how I interpret that quote you provided, but you got me thinking ... I believe the quote you provided was BS talking about souls being reborn the "normal" way. So maybe BS is 100% certain that the strength of transmigrated souls can be affected by the body into which they are transmigrated (because that's what happened to Cyndane), but is only 85% certain that the same is true of souls born the "normal" way.

I think that interpretation would fit his comment.


We'd have heard by now if she was weaker in her new body than in her old one. But who knows ... anything is possible at this point :)
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2857 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1194 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 978 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 917 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 974 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 896 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 912 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 890 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 843 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1029 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 914 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1013 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 892 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 952 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 809 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1136 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1029 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 975 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 890 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1017 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 925 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 560 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 521 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 952 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 917 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 942 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 927 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 905 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 816 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 898 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 950 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 920 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1086 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 928 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 911 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 938 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 826 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 999 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 698 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 942 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 916 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 919 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 972 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 914 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 810 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 987 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 938 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 941 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 919 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 945 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 916 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 936 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 876 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 824 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 803 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 959 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 751 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 533 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 994 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 917 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 954 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1178 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1037 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 807 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 953 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1191 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 903 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 886 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1009 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 838 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 807 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 945 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 577 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 924 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 845 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 853 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 600 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1169 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 930 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 928 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 834 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1014 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 877 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 994 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 746 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 738 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 876 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 774 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 872 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 979 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1149 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 484 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 920 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 950 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1091 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 782 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 925 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 869 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 891 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1065 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 919 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 571 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 496 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 518 Views
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