But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications?
Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM
Balefire is the only one I can think of, and that was first used without any reference to turning back time IIRC.
And like I said before, what's the point of such a weave? The real aim should be that as soon as a delving weave hits the Compulsion it disappears BEFORE IT CAN BE DETECTED. Graendal had NO way to know that Nynaeve wouldn't simply delve Ramshalan 2 or 3 times before Rand BF'ed the palace, thereby ruining the whole scheme. The fact that Nynaeve took some seconds to delve Ramshalan shows us that the weave was stuck in there good. She would have seen it disappear otherwise.
For that matter, we haven't yet seen a weave that can unmake other weaves. This would change the series completely since there are so many applications for such a weave, but we've never seen it. Removing weaves happens in two ways only; they dissolve with time (Graendal's Compulsion was heavy enough that we can ignore this, otherwise how was she to know that Rand might not have been a few hours further away, or closer?), or they can be unknitted: to date, only Aviendha has done this, and the result was what was effectively a Nuclear explosion that lead the Seanchan to think that the AS had a secret weapon (and if they could connect the dots, the AS would realise that this is true).
Even if all of the above were possible, there are still plenty of other reasons that Graendal is dead.
And like I said before, what's the point of such a weave? The real aim should be that as soon as a delving weave hits the Compulsion it disappears BEFORE IT CAN BE DETECTED. Graendal had NO way to know that Nynaeve wouldn't simply delve Ramshalan 2 or 3 times before Rand BF'ed the palace, thereby ruining the whole scheme. The fact that Nynaeve took some seconds to delve Ramshalan shows us that the weave was stuck in there good. She would have seen it disappear otherwise.
For that matter, we haven't yet seen a weave that can unmake other weaves. This would change the series completely since there are so many applications for such a weave, but we've never seen it. Removing weaves happens in two ways only; they dissolve with time (Graendal's Compulsion was heavy enough that we can ignore this, otherwise how was she to know that Rand might not have been a few hours further away, or closer?), or they can be unknitted: to date, only Aviendha has done this, and the result was what was effectively a Nuclear explosion that lead the Seanchan to think that the AS had a secret weapon (and if they could connect the dots, the AS would realise that this is true).
Even if all of the above were possible, there are still plenty of other reasons that Graendal is dead.
So your name is Graendal....
- 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM
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one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM*
- 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM
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She very well...
- 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM
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Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim.
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- 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM
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- 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM
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Bold like saying that water is wet....
- 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM
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I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM*
- 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM
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Moghedien....
- 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM
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The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R
- 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM
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Yeah.....
- 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
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Re: Yeah.....
- 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM
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Moghedien? Really?
- 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM
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Re: Moghedien? Really?
- 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM
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Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily.
- 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM
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It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS
- 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM
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The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced.
- 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM
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Couple of flaws in that reasoning
- 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM
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Come on now....
- 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM
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IMO
- 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM
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This could go either way....
- 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM
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RE: Strength and Compulsion
- 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM
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I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling.
- 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM
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Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling.
- 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM
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The thing is...
- 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM
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My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused.
- 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM
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A conclusion with an explanation built around it.
- 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM
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So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that.....
- 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM
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...
- 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM
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Ok...I'm just saying...
- 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM
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I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like.
- 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM
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That's ridiculous
- 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM
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Hold on now....
- 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM
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Re: Hold on now....
- 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM
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Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said.
- 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM
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I disagree.
- 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM
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But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications?
- 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM
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Two things come to mind...
- 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM
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I don't really think this is relevant
- 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM
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There's a difference....
- 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM
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I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart
- 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM
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- 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM
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*grins*
- 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM
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But again...
- 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM
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sure we do
- 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM
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Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards.
- 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM
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But here's the thing...
- 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM
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Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards.
- 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM
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...
- 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM
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Re: ...
- 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM
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But
- 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM
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I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different
- 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM
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Hrm
- 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM
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