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Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM
Why would Graendal want to make it dissappear after delving? How about the lack of an evidence trail. As per the removal of simple compulsion and its side effects....we're talking Graendal here. She is the only one in the entire series who is regarded as having a *Talent* for Compulsion. Even the other Forsaken know and acknoweldge this. To underestimate her ability with it is foolish. Do you honestly think that Graendal couldn't make a specific Compulsion weave which would do what she wanted, and then dissipate and have no affects afterwards?


Actually, your theory DOES imply that Graendal wanted Rand to come there, because otherwise she would have used the same weave on Kerb to ensure that Nynaeve never discovered that he was under Compulsion.

In fact, the entire theory falls apart when you consider that Delving isn't instantaneous; if the weaves break down or unknot, Nynaeve WOULD have sensed them doing so. Otherwise as soon as she touched Ramshalan's mind it would appear that he was NOT under Compulsion.


Kerb was clearly in place months before Rand occupied AD so Graendal had less need to be subtle with him.

And when do we learn that Delving isn't instantaneous?
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1746 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 750 Views
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Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 609 Views
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I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 430 Views
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Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 953 Views
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This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 968 Views
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Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 833 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 435 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 771 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 751 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 670 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 753 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 798 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 742 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 935 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 823 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 666 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 408 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 561 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 434 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 909 Views
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Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1102 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 873 Views
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IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 799 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 945 Views
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Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 463 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 676 Views
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My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 768 Views
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Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 812 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 719 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 405 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 852 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 677 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 375 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 856 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 744 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 915 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 776 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 790 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 955 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 783 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 787 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 723 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 720 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 810 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 679 Views
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Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 872 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 785 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 823 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 818 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 835 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 751 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 697 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 684 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 795 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 724 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 935 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 673 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 758 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 725 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 827 Views
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Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 898 Views
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Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 416 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 794 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 783 Views
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