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When Rand thinks that he kills.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM
Graendal with a force of light. How does he (or us for that matter) not know that he hasn't been outsmarted yet again? Something that the Forsaken have been able to do time and time again...

So a subtle form of Compulsion was no longer evidenced after the Balefire. So what. Who's to say it was Graendal? Who's to say that the weave itself didn't undo itself?

Do I think that Graendal is dead? Yes. Why? Because its the end of the series. If not for that, do I think that she is dead? Not sure...but I wouldn't bank on it. If any of the forsken could out think Rand, it would be her.

~Jeordam
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So your name is Graendal... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM 1477 Views
First off.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:51:46 PM 746 Views
Re: First off.... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:09:06 PM 539 Views
Nice Sidious - 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM 642 Views
Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM 549 Views
Not really Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:02:27 PM 523 Views
Re: Not really RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:12:05 PM 665 Views
There's one other possibility... fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM 633 Views
But... Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM 516 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM 689 Views
Point granted. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM 693 Views
Read the books Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM 665 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:13:00 PM 684 Views
Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:35:27 PM 606 Views
Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below . Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM 660 Views
Thanks! And I just copy pasted... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:03:21 PM 506 Views
Is it really that plausible? Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:18:25 AM 528 Views
Ahhh, but... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 06:22:46 AM 612 Views
Re: Ahhh, but... Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:40:40 PM 525 Views
So your name is Robert Jordan Etzel - 03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM 832 Views
But unfortunately and tragically... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 06:01:15 PM 609 Views
This thought is so grotesque... Etzel - 03/02/2010 07:20:20 PM 571 Views
Re: This thought is so grotesque... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM 579 Views
Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before. Etzel - 03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM 582 Views
Uhhh... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM 692 Views
Yeah, but... Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM 545 Views
But I think you're misreading the rules of the game. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM 498 Views
Rand considers... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:10:59 AM 492 Views
I don't think.... Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:11:03 PM 667 Views
O_O RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM 534 Views
Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM* Etzel - 03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM 211 Views
When Rand thinks that he kills.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM 530 Views
Well, then we agree, I also think Graendal is definitely dead! *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:06:31 AM 225 Views
He defeats every Forsaken because he doesn't play their game Sidious - 04/02/2010 04:23:23 AM 640 Views
I agree. *NM* Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:11:51 AM 610 Views
I think there is a sexual dynamic here RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 04:45:49 PM 517 Views
Bingo Sidious - 03/02/2010 06:03:19 PM 605 Views
That is not true.. fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 11:50:18 PM 669 Views
This was a typical... Etzel - 04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM 491 Views
There was nothing typical about it! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:48:16 PM 636 Views
Rand wasn't at all afraid of Graendal Etzel - 04/02/2010 09:22:53 PM 583 Views
Of course he was! Even Nynaeve and Min noticed! fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 09:32:52 PM 650 Views
Re: That is not true.. Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:57:56 PM 747 Views
There's a difference between Semirhage's death & Graendal's (possible) death Jeordam - 04/02/2010 06:48:11 PM 752 Views
But RJ/BS brike convention in this book... fionwe1987 - 04/02/2010 08:52:44 PM 673 Views
So your name is Basel Gill. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:53:13 AM 556 Views
So your name is Sidious Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:57:46 AM 650 Views
Just use the TARDIS. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/02/2010 05:04:52 AM 334 Views
Re: So your name is Sidious Sidious - 04/02/2010 03:48:52 PM 505 Views
You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis! Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 06:16:54 PM 608 Views
A throne of beetles Sidious - 04/02/2010 06:35:58 PM 546 Views
How exactly do you fashion a throne out of live beetles? Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 07:46:42 PM 558 Views
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