Rand vs. a Forsaken climax, which we have in almost all books. Those confrontations always end with the Forsaken beaten, captured or dead. It would be a complete surprise, if RJ suddenly changed this just for an idiotic twist. Plus, the whole scene where Rand explains his brilliant plan would be completely ridiculous, if Graendal already sneaked away.
Never, ever before has Rand shown an almost reverential fear of the Foresaken he's going to fight.
He faced Rahvin, Sammael and Lanfear. He faced and captured Asmodean. In all these instances, Rand has physical worries, but never once is he hesitant. Never once does he go into the battle wary and afraid.
Never once does he try to use his brains. Never once has he said or thought that all his actions would be planned for well before he even thought of them.
And that build up was justified and reiterated throughout the series. Whether as manipulation or as truth, Graendal is the only Foresaken Moridin praises and commends. Only utter fools like Aran'gar think to play her. Warier minds like Rahvin, Sammael and Demandred state right out that playing any kind of game with her was suicidal.
There is little or no doubt that it is Graendal, and not Lanfear, who was Moridin's female counterpart.
I'd be totally unsurprised that Rand's plan, which was based on the hope of surprise, is doomed to failure. That's the way RJ built up this character, and that's the way the lead up to her "death" was written.
Your insistence there is no mystery over her death is baffling, as Brandon himself said there was an intentional effort to create doubt.
Of all the Forsaken, heck, of all the Characters, the one person whose death we should doubt without a body is Graendal.
So your name is Graendal...
- 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM
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- 03/02/2010 04:38:42 PM
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Nice
- 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM
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- 03/02/2010 05:46:45 PM
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Well we know she has a weather/temperature warding screen around her palace
- 03/02/2010 05:58:27 PM
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There's one other possibility...
- 03/02/2010 11:42:25 PM
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But...
- 04/02/2010 01:03:05 AM
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Nope...
- 04/02/2010 06:19:56 AM
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Point granted.
- 04/02/2010 06:56:19 AM
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Read the books
- 04/02/2010 03:47:23 PM
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- 04/02/2010 06:35:27 PM
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Yeah, that's why I figured I'd post my Sidious wish-fulfillment theory below
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- 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM
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- 04/02/2010 07:44:22 PM
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So your name is Robert Jordan
- 03/02/2010 05:53:43 PM
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But unfortunately and tragically...
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This thought is so grotesque...
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Re: This thought is so grotesque...
- 03/02/2010 07:40:01 PM
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Actually no Forsaken has ever beaten or outsmarted Rand in a confrontation before.
- 03/02/2010 08:50:41 PM
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Uhhh...
- 03/02/2010 09:01:57 PM
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Yeah, but...
- 03/02/2010 09:21:51 PM
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But I think you're misreading the rules of the game.
- 03/02/2010 09:31:40 PM
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O_O
- 03/02/2010 09:25:17 PM
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Yeah, and this is exactly what we see when Rand kills Graendal with a force of light. *NM*
- 03/02/2010 09:29:08 PM
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When Rand thinks that he kills....
- 03/02/2010 09:34:41 PM
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Well, then we agree, I also think Graendal is definitely dead!
*NM*
- 04/02/2010 10:06:31 AM
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*NM*
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That is not true..
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This was a typical...
- 04/02/2010 10:17:56 AM
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There was nothing typical about it!
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Re: That is not true..
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There's a difference between Semirhage's death & Graendal's (possible) death
- 04/02/2010 06:48:11 PM
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So your name is Sidious
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Re: So your name is Sidious
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You're offering me a throne? Thanks Siddy, you're my favourite archnemesis!
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