Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
On the other hand, Graendal only became a real major villian since LoC. Before TFoH she basically wasn't even mentioned, and in TFoH we just see Graendal in two scenes among other, at this time much more prominent and profiled Forsaken, namely Lanfear, Sammael and Rahvin.
Yet we didn't really know Slayer's full nature until much later. Even his "job" as Shadow assassin was vague at best until much later when he tells us.
We did know Graendal had knowledge of Rands timelines, had plausible reason for being in the Palace, would recognize Asmo on sight and had the means to kill him and vanish with non the wiser. Reversed weaves and masked ability would ensure Aviendha wouldn't have felt her Gateway or potentially Balefire.
One more reason I have that comes later in the series is that Slayer doesn't reveal killing Asmo when he thinks back on his "prized kills". In contrast, Graendal often thinks about the other Forsaken and either knows what they are up to, or complains that she is unaware... oh and she's fully aware that Asmodean is dead since she knows there are only 8 left...
TGS
Prologue
That man frustrated her, though she would never admit it out loud. Mesaana was in the White Tower, pretending to be one of what passed for an Aes Sedai in this Age. She was obvious and easy to read; Graendal's agents in the White Tower kept her well apprised of Mesaana's activities. And, of course, Graendal's own newly minted association with Aran'gar was helpful as well. Aran'gar was playing with the rebel Aes Sedai, the ones who were besieging the White Tower.
Yes, Mesaana did not confuse her, and the others were equally easy to track. Moridin was gathering the Great Lord's forces for the Last Battle, and his war preparations left him very little time for the south—though his two minions, Cyndane and Moghedien, occasionally showed their faces there. They spent their time rallying the Darkfriends and occasionally trying follow Moridin's orders that the two ta'veren—Perrin Aybara and Matrim Cauthon--be killed.
She was certain Sammael had fallen to Rand al'Thor during the struggle for Illian. In fact—now that Graendal had a clue that Semirhage had been pulling strings with the Seanchan—she was confident she knew the plans of every one of the other seven remaining Chosen.
Seems odd that Graendal knows he's dead (she qualifies her thought on Sammael, but not Asmo) when no one else is at all sure.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson
- 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM
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The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is...
- 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM
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So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway?
- 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM
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I think Slayer spied on Asmo
- 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM
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I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM
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Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM*
- 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM
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Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
- 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
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In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM*
- 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM
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As far as I'm concerned...
- 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
- 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
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Correction...
- 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM
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So, basically...
- 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM
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The clues are there?
- 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM
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Re: The clues are there?
- 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM
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He wasn't being insulting, I don't think.
- 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM
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well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
- 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
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Apparently...
- 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM
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No it isn't.
- 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
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You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM
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Re: You don't understand...
- 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
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Both merged into one being
- 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM
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Not what I asked.
- 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM
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If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM
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Re: If he couldn't do this...
- 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM
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That Basel Gill comparison just silly...
- 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM
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I've asked you only one question, repeatedly.
- 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM
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Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues...
- 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM
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You have never provided anything even resembling evidence.
- 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM
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Dude
- 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM
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You know what's really embarrassing?
- 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
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One last time...
- 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM
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Egwene did it though
- 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM
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Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't.
- 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM*
- 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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But we don't actually see that
- 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM
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But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense.
- 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM
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by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle
- 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM
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A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants
- 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM
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First rule of balefire:
- 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM
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Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does!
- 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM
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On the servants theory
- 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM
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Rand's odd wounds
- 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM
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RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds.
- 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM
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Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to?
- 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM
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RJ said that. *NM*
- 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM
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@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R...
- 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM
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Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM
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Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
- 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM
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