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Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM
You can either enter TAR in the dream or in the flesh (some can do both). If you enter TAR in the flesh, you are there in the flesh. Slayer/Luc is in TAR in the flesh and thus entered TAR in the flesh before. If you can enter TAR in the flesh, you can naturally do it everywhere in the Real World, similar to leaving TAR at any location. From this ability, obviously given by the DO, and Slayer's apparent profession as hitman/assassin/bounty hunter for the Shadow, one can also deduce the other things, e.g. that Slayer likely killed the BA or the Gray Man.


No, that doesn't follow. You have already stated that Slayer is not a normal Dreamer/Dreamwalker and has abilities that they don't. That you now fall back on the rules that apply to Dreamwalkers as being inviolable to support your point is contradictory.

Nothing necessarily indicates that Slayer is a Dreamwalker. I explained why it makes sense that he went back to Emond's Field, after he was shot. And obviously this also wasn't meant as a clue by RJ to indicate that Slayer is a Dreamwalker, contrary to what Hopper said, because Slayer actually uses TAR in the flesh. You simply interpreted this scene wrongly.


It only makes sense if you fit the evidence to the desired conclusion, not if you try to find the conclusion best suited top the evidence. There is nothing to show that Slayer picked up anything invaluable in his room. There is nothing to show that Slayer travelled any distance at all after being shot by Perrin rather than simply leave the Dream. You only assume these things because you need to in order for your conclusion to be valid. For people who have not already read Winter's Heart, there is no reason to make these assumptions.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1721 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 500 Views
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 381 Views
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Correction... - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 350 Views
So, basically... - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 352 Views
The clues are there? - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 370 Views
Re: The clues are there? - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 337 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 385 Views
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Apparently... - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 367 Views
No it isn't. - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 347 Views
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Re: You don't understand... - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 378 Views
Re: You don't understand... - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 339 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 357 Views
Both merged into one being - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 384 Views
Not what I asked. - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 324 Views
If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 374 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 336 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 381 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 191 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 416 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 346 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 326 Views
Dude - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 308 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 431 Views
be nice *NM* - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 176 Views
One last time... - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 348 Views
Re: One last time... - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 349 Views
No... - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 331 Views
Re: No... - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 378 Views
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 187 Views
But we don't actually see that - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 338 Views
Hmm. True, that. - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 298 Views
I see what you are saying now - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 305 Views
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 315 Views
First rule of balefire: - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 316 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 335 Views
On the servants theory - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 314 Views
Rand's odd wounds - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 298 Views
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RJ said that. *NM* - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 295 Views
Do you have that quote handy? - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 318 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 304 Views
Here: - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 315 Views
thanks! good job *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 151 Views
You dont address all the criteria - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 309 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 146 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 313 Views
Exactly my point. - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 326 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 359 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 160 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 138 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 335 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 313 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 360 Views

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