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Fair enough.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM

Rand could see Asmo through the window from his location in the Caemlyn Palace as well, before Asmo walked away to get wine. It's also explicitely told in the books that Slayer spies on people. When Slayer saw that Asmo went in a certain direction, he jumbed there via TAR (as said, Slayer most likely knows the Palace quite well) and had the luck that Asmo apparently opened the first door on his way. Thus Slayer got the perfect opportunity to kill Asmo, especially since the Palace was largely deserted at this time. If Asmo wouldn't have opened the door, Slayer had simply waited for another chance to get Asmo.

In my view that makes more sense than e.g. the idea that Graendal randomly wandered in this part of the Palace for some obscure reason and without any disguise.


He was spying on him. Had the time/opportunity to jump into the dream world...run down the hall....get back out of the dreamworld....and Asmodean should have picked door number three. So then the question comes around to who commissioned Slayer to act?

As per Graendal wandering around the Palace herself. Well we know from this very book that she had a whole scheme brewing with Rhavin, Sammael, and Lanfear so she very well could have been in the palace. Why didn't she have a disguise? Well she just witnessed Rhavin's smack-down with Rand. She knew that there was a female channeler in the Palace, and that any channeling remotely near Rand would alert him of something going on. Would you risk disguising yourself?

There are just a few things for Slayer that just don't add up. Not that I really consider author-speak canon, but RJ said that we knew the character who killed Asmodean. And that we knew of that character by that book. We had no idea who "slayer" was, and for all we knew, he was dead after Perrin shot him. We had no idea he was the shadow's gun-for-hire.

And then the MO for Slayer isn't the same as his typical. Asmodean disappeared without a trace. No blood, no body, no harp...nothing. Yes, you could say that Slayer was ordered to not leave any evidence, but again, to what conclusion? The Forsaken who ordered the hit wanted it to look like a mystery? Oddly enough, I see the Forsaken making an example of anyone who betrayed them, let alone anyone who was weak. The example of this type of hit, which Slayer did do, would be the two Black Ajah sisters in the Stone of Tear. I mean, if the Forsaken wanted to really cause Rand issues, they could have rigged it so that the whole world found out that Rand's bard was the Forsaken Asmodean. That would have caused *major* issues with his allies. Instead, not a peep out of anyone...and we've seen each and every Forsaken who is still alive since then. The only bit of whatever that we have seen is that Graendal had her lips sealed when Sammael brought it up.

~Jeordam
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1541 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 352 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 359 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 290 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 249 Views
Fair enough.... - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 314 Views
I think... - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 305 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 103 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 135 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 189 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 200 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 227 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 201 Views
As far as I'm concerned... - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 228 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 219 Views
Correction... - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 214 Views
So, basically... - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 210 Views
The clues are there? - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 224 Views
Re: The clues are there? - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 193 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 223 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 233 Views
Apparently... - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 215 Views
No it isn't. - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 193 Views
You don't understand... - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 218 Views
Re: You don't understand... - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 218 Views
Re: You don't understand... - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 188 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 205 Views
Both merged into one being - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 206 Views
Not what I asked. - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 169 Views
If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 201 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 182 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 242 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 102 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 258 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 189 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 179 Views
Dude - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 164 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 268 Views
be nice *NM* - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 96 Views
One last time... - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 191 Views
Re: One last time... - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 195 Views
No... - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 181 Views
Re: No... - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 224 Views
So... - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 191 Views
Re: So... - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 298 Views
Egwene did it though - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 182 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 184 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 113 Views
But we don't actually see that - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 194 Views
Hmm. True, that. - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 168 Views
I see what you are saying now - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 175 Views
Yep - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 183 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 192 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 195 Views
First rule of balefire: - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 204 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 202 Views
On the servants theory - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 189 Views
Rand's odd wounds - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 174 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 196 Views
RJ said that. *NM* - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 167 Views
Do you have that quote handy? - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 188 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 176 Views
Here: - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 184 Views
thanks! good job *NM* - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 93 Views
You dont address all the criteria - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 182 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 89 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 186 Views
Exactly my point. - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 197 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 218 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 97 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 81 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 207 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 190 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 227 Views

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