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No. I don't even have Word. Camilla Send a noteboard - 15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM
Why did you think that?


(Again with the trying to be concise, so I just dropped the paragraphs where I agree with what you say but have nothing to add.)

Dumbledore is in general very suggested in these chapters. People keep referring to him. Mrs Weasley uses him as the basis for her argument with Sirius. I cannot help feeling that this is the book where Dumbledore fails. Hmmm. That is too harsh. I am thinking about the decision whether to tell Harry or not. I suppose his position is an impossible one. He cannot tell Harry everything (because that would leave him more open to an attack from Voldemort), and he apparently recognises the danger of incomplete information (quite rightly); but again, he must know Harry will not react well to being kept entirely out of the loop.

He does fail, really. Above all he shouldn't have avoided Harry so much.


I suppose it is a matter of hindsight being 20/20.
I am not sure another course of action would have been better, though. We know this one did not turn out well, but there were significant dangers in the others open to him as well. I suppose the best thing would have been to tell Harry why he couldn't tell Harry.... But you can bet Harry would have been annoying about that, too.

Mrs Weasley: She is getting thinner. I like all the information that communicates. Rowling seems to use it in general as a signal of (a lack of) mental well-being: if you are thinning, you are worried or under great strain. She did it for Sirius as well, and Lupin. I am sure there are more.

And she's evidently not too happy about Sirius, because she feels he'll put Harry in danger, and perhaps her own children too in the process. You have to wonder to what extent the traumas of her past - her brothers dying in the previous war - influence her fear for her family this time around. Her brothers were twins as well, so it might not be too much of a stretch to guess she makes a link on some level with Fred and George.


Good point. I hadn't made that connection. It makes sense.

The twins: also back in top form. Their handling of Harry's anger is reminiscent of their handling his shame in book 3: they go straight to the source and attempt to fix it (extendable ears). I read their sudden entry as an attempt to puncture the situation, and it works.

It does work. And since I'm reading every Twins scene as confirmation or disproval of my theory about their characters now, I looked a bit again at who says and does what. Fred still has most of the daring and outgoing remarks, while George is the one described as the most resentful about the Percy thing.


Nice. I had forgotten to keep my eyes on that. I like that she is consistent.

Ginny: her adoration for Bill and her "noise like an angry cat" are both endearing. As is her ability to lie with a straight face.

Note also her casual "Oh hi, Harry" entrance, confirming that she's stopped pining over him and trying to focus on other things. This is the book where she really becomes part of the gang, along with Neville and Luna, so her character needs more depth that's being provided in bits and pieces here. George also makes a remark about her considerable hexing skills.


Quite. And we have already seen her hexes in action at the end of the last book (I think. Jesus, my memory is like a sieve).

Sirius: his bitterness at being locked up in that horrible house is established. As much of a plot point as a character point, I suppose. The opposition between him and Mrs Weasley about who is going to be Harry's surrogate parent is interesting. Mrs Weasley is probably right that Sirius is less "parent" and more "friend", and maybe also that a lot of this is grounded in his memories of James. But I don't see this as a major problem. If anything, Sirius understands Harry's position. Mrs Weasley's position is one of wishful thinking -- we know Harry will not be content to hang around in the dark without any information. No matter what Dumbledore says.

Agreed, Mrs. Weasley's position clearly isn't the ideal one either. Perhaps because of her history (see above), her take on how to treat Harry is too protective and as a result counterproductive. It's kind of hard to say to what extent she's right about Sirius. He doesn't really seem to overestimate Harry that I can see. He's a lot closer to the right tack than she is.


I think you've hit the nail on the head with the connection to her brothers. I am not sure whether my impression of them comes from something said in the books or is wholly a matter of Shoebox Project influence, but I think of them as marauder-like, similar to Fred and George. If so, it must terrify her to see recklessness anywhere near her children. That must be why she has always been so happy with Percy's rule-orientedness. And it must be made much worse by Voldemort being back.

I like the insight we are given into Sirius' past in these chapters. The way he hates his family, the introduction of his brother (important plot point), running away to live with the Potters. It mirrors Harry again, to a certain extent, except where Sirius' hell is the extreme pureblood magical family, Harry's is at the other end of the spectrum in the extreme muggleness of the Dursleys. I don't think Rowling is a fan of extremes.

Yeah, that much is clear. The family tree is great, allowing character development, plot clues and discussion of the theme of racial purity at the same time. I'm wondering now, though... is Kreacher's apparent devotion to Voldemort here an act? I'd have to reread DH to be sure, but shouldn't Kreacher resent Voldemort and his followers for what happened with Regulus?


Does he know? That Voldemort killed him? Don't the trio tell him that later on? Hmmm. I am unsure now.
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2927 Views
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Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2795 Views
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The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 3046 Views
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Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2640 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2778 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 3004 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2905 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 3003 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2781 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2767 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2911 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2837 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2750 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2882 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2916 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2864 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2831 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2934 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2852 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2686 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2853 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2899 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2719 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2780 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2785 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2861 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2717 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2861 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2901 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2977 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1622 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2921 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2831 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2884 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2843 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2778 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2806 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2839 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2650 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2904 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2822 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1598 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2837 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1608 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 3095 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2941 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2975 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2949 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1651 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2906 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2856 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2688 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2898 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2865 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2912 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2879 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2903 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2753 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1708 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2952 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2938 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 3188 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2903 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2865 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2895 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2998 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2944 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2764 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2855 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1635 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2993 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2870 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2932 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2862 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1599 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2927 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 3022 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2804 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2967 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2843 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2931 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2883 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 3028 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 3034 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 3185 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2911 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2821 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2887 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2918 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2869 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2792 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2920 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2821 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2869 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2681 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2944 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2938 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2854 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2888 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2781 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2969 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2926 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2940 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2834 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2804 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2803 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2901 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2852 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2846 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 3038 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2966 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2879 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 3106 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2774 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2731 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2968 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 3001 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2965 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2877 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2854 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2961 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2745 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2984 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2673 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2827 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 3035 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2890 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2786 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2804 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 3000 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2814 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2951 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2971 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2907 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2825 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 3047 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2757 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 3043 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 3039 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2946 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2873 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 3040 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 3056 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2877 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2813 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2785 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2983 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2850 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2814 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1726 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1607 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2852 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2896 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2784 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2761 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2862 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 3080 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2954 Views
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