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No. I don't even have Word. Camilla Send a noteboard - 15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM
Why did you think that?


(Again with the trying to be concise, so I just dropped the paragraphs where I agree with what you say but have nothing to add.)

Dumbledore is in general very suggested in these chapters. People keep referring to him. Mrs Weasley uses him as the basis for her argument with Sirius. I cannot help feeling that this is the book where Dumbledore fails. Hmmm. That is too harsh. I am thinking about the decision whether to tell Harry or not. I suppose his position is an impossible one. He cannot tell Harry everything (because that would leave him more open to an attack from Voldemort), and he apparently recognises the danger of incomplete information (quite rightly); but again, he must know Harry will not react well to being kept entirely out of the loop.

He does fail, really. Above all he shouldn't have avoided Harry so much.


I suppose it is a matter of hindsight being 20/20.
I am not sure another course of action would have been better, though. We know this one did not turn out well, but there were significant dangers in the others open to him as well. I suppose the best thing would have been to tell Harry why he couldn't tell Harry.... But you can bet Harry would have been annoying about that, too.

Mrs Weasley: She is getting thinner. I like all the information that communicates. Rowling seems to use it in general as a signal of (a lack of) mental well-being: if you are thinning, you are worried or under great strain. She did it for Sirius as well, and Lupin. I am sure there are more.

And she's evidently not too happy about Sirius, because she feels he'll put Harry in danger, and perhaps her own children too in the process. You have to wonder to what extent the traumas of her past - her brothers dying in the previous war - influence her fear for her family this time around. Her brothers were twins as well, so it might not be too much of a stretch to guess she makes a link on some level with Fred and George.


Good point. I hadn't made that connection. It makes sense.

The twins: also back in top form. Their handling of Harry's anger is reminiscent of their handling his shame in book 3: they go straight to the source and attempt to fix it (extendable ears). I read their sudden entry as an attempt to puncture the situation, and it works.

It does work. And since I'm reading every Twins scene as confirmation or disproval of my theory about their characters now, I looked a bit again at who says and does what. Fred still has most of the daring and outgoing remarks, while George is the one described as the most resentful about the Percy thing.


Nice. I had forgotten to keep my eyes on that. I like that she is consistent.

Ginny: her adoration for Bill and her "noise like an angry cat" are both endearing. As is her ability to lie with a straight face.

Note also her casual "Oh hi, Harry" entrance, confirming that she's stopped pining over him and trying to focus on other things. This is the book where she really becomes part of the gang, along with Neville and Luna, so her character needs more depth that's being provided in bits and pieces here. George also makes a remark about her considerable hexing skills.


Quite. And we have already seen her hexes in action at the end of the last book (I think. Jesus, my memory is like a sieve).

Sirius: his bitterness at being locked up in that horrible house is established. As much of a plot point as a character point, I suppose. The opposition between him and Mrs Weasley about who is going to be Harry's surrogate parent is interesting. Mrs Weasley is probably right that Sirius is less "parent" and more "friend", and maybe also that a lot of this is grounded in his memories of James. But I don't see this as a major problem. If anything, Sirius understands Harry's position. Mrs Weasley's position is one of wishful thinking -- we know Harry will not be content to hang around in the dark without any information. No matter what Dumbledore says.

Agreed, Mrs. Weasley's position clearly isn't the ideal one either. Perhaps because of her history (see above), her take on how to treat Harry is too protective and as a result counterproductive. It's kind of hard to say to what extent she's right about Sirius. He doesn't really seem to overestimate Harry that I can see. He's a lot closer to the right tack than she is.


I think you've hit the nail on the head with the connection to her brothers. I am not sure whether my impression of them comes from something said in the books or is wholly a matter of Shoebox Project influence, but I think of them as marauder-like, similar to Fred and George. If so, it must terrify her to see recklessness anywhere near her children. That must be why she has always been so happy with Percy's rule-orientedness. And it must be made much worse by Voldemort being back.

I like the insight we are given into Sirius' past in these chapters. The way he hates his family, the introduction of his brother (important plot point), running away to live with the Potters. It mirrors Harry again, to a certain extent, except where Sirius' hell is the extreme pureblood magical family, Harry's is at the other end of the spectrum in the extreme muggleness of the Dursleys. I don't think Rowling is a fan of extremes.

Yeah, that much is clear. The family tree is great, allowing character development, plot clues and discussion of the theme of racial purity at the same time. I'm wondering now, though... is Kreacher's apparent devotion to Voldemort here an act? I'd have to reread DH to be sure, but shouldn't Kreacher resent Voldemort and his followers for what happened with Regulus?


Does he know? That Voldemort killed him? Don't the trio tell him that later on? Hmmm. I am unsure now.
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Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2027 Views
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It's cheesy. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 979 Views
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Yeah, let's. *NM* Legolas - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1023 Views
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Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 1839 Views
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Re: Oh, I think it is. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 1780 Views
Prefect picking. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 1831 Views
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Re: Weasley goodness. Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 1919 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 1937 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 980 Views
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Re: Oh, there's more than that. Camilla - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 1888 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 1808 Views
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Re: Hmm. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 1873 Views
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Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 1870 Views
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Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1104 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 1814 Views
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Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 1922 Views
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 1850 Views
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Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 1814 Views
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Umbridge StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 1929 Views
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Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 1988 Views
Any other comments? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 1760 Views
Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 1784 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 1862 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 1823 Views
The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 1927 Views
Good point. Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 1871 Views
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Le plot. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 1770 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 1990 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 1909 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 1900 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 1777 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 1736 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 1975 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 1893 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 1608 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 1740 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 1854 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 1887 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 1960 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 1764 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 1772 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 1866 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 1857 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 1716 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 1840 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 1886 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 1831 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 1848 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1651 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 1797 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 1861 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 1706 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 1700 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 1676 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 1766 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 1665 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 1826 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 1840 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 1874 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 953 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 1837 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 1775 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 1851 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 1770 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 1745 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 1734 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 1814 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1607 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 1809 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 1796 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 906 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 1799 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 968 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 1985 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 1874 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 1917 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 1902 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 980 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 1835 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 1826 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 1656 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 1810 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 1825 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 1857 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 1817 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 1866 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 1729 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1013 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 1895 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 1897 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2089 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 1839 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 1785 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 1846 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2002 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 1903 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 1703 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 1805 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 992 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 1911 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 1795 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 1872 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 1783 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 905 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 1905 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2017 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 1787 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 1922 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 1814 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 1897 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 1810 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 1958 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 1976 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 2072 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 1815 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 1732 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 1837 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 1861 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 1825 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 1724 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 1837 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 1802 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 1857 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 1660 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 1888 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 1917 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 1811 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 1833 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 1782 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 1904 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 1847 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 1871 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 1798 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 1804 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 1784 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 1868 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 1816 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 1784 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 1971 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 1904 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 1813 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2004 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 1711 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 1670 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 1901 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 1919 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 1906 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 1873 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 1812 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 1909 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 1700 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 1897 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1613 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 1763 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 1990 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 1832 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 1757 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 1778 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 1834 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 1807 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 1913 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 1856 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 1842 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 1791 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 1938 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 1673 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2006 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2003 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 1855 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 1824 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 1954 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 1981 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 1822 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 1759 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 1748 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 1940 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 1798 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1750 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1062 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 938 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 1837 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 1835 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 1756 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 1735 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 1839 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 2011 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 1930 Views
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