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Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla Send a noteboard - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM
Ron: his continual awareness of poverty shows up again. It is mentioned twice in connection with the gold coins. I cannot remember this having any real plot relevance from here on out, but it is an important source for his insecurities, I think. And one of his danger points: he has a tendency to equate success and money with the good choices. Always dangerous. And of course it is one of the things exploited by the Slytherin song. I wonder, does this show up as one of the great arguments later on? In Deathly Hollows?

I don't think so... but can't say for sure.


The only thing I can think of is if it comes up when he is faced with the horcrux.

Umbridge: her evil evilness continues. I like how arbitrary (hmmm, no, that is not the word ... selective, perhaps? biased?) "justice" is a mark of the bad guys who are ostensibly on the side of "good". Snape and Umbridge especially.

You cannot possibly mention Snape and Umbridge in the same breath. :P She is way more evil than him. Well, more annoying, anyway. But I suppose there are similarities, yes. Of course, she merely follows Fudge's example there - I seem to recall you commenting on his willingness to flout his own rules when convenient, in that early PoA scene in the Leaky Cauldron. And in Harry's trial, as well.


Trust me, no one is more reluctant to lump Snape and Umbridge together more than me. I think it is less a matter of innate immorality, and more a reflection of what Harry picks up on. Teenagers and children are notoriously sensitive to the "unfair", and that characterises both teachers, and forms a core part of Harry's dislike for them.

Still, I can't help thinking Fudge would be shocked if he saw some of the things Umbridge does. He doesn't have her notions about racial purity, or her sadistic streak, and I don't think he really knows about them.


Good point. And no, I don't think he does. She says herself that there are some things it is better Fudge not know.

And her way of talking to Hagrid, as if he were a deaf moron, makes me want to kill her dead. Which means it is very effective. Well done, Rowling.

Indeed. Umbridge strikes me for some reason as being of low or questionable background in some way, and overcompensating for it by looking down on half-bloods and anyone she perceives as ranking lower, while sucking up to the likes of Malfoy (father and son both). There has to be something to account for her prejudice. Could it be that she's Muggle-born? Or a Squib - I can't remember if we ever see her actually using her wand. Though I guess Squibs wouldn't have wands in the first place, so maybe not.


Hmm. I cannot really imagine that. Not a squib, certainly, or Fudge would not have placed so much trust in her, I think. Could be muggle-born. Or maybe just from a poor family? I don't really want to point it out, but it could be she is compensating for height as well :<img class=' />

McGonnagall: I am impressed she does not turn Umbridge into a toad. It must have been so very, very tempting.

McGonagall's initial punishment did seem sort of low, though of course Umbridge's is ridiculous. The having that decree ready at precisely that time rather strains credulity, though, unless we are to suppose that Umbridge gave Malfoy a hint to maximally provoke the Gryffindors right when she had her decree. I like how Angelina's attempt to force Umbridge's hand comes back like a boomerang, though - cleverly done by Rowling, and showing Umbridge's resentful side.


Hmm. Well, Rowling has covered it by showing there is previous provocation which could make Umbridge request the powers, and I have no trouble imagining her carrying it around in her handbag without telling anyone so that she can brandish it in just this way once her authority is (inevitably) challenged.

I also like her horror at the realisation that Harry's mind is linked with Voldemort's.

Yeah. Who wouldn't be horrified, really... I don't really remember if we're going to see Seamus and Dean reflect back on this, but they must be shocked too.


Yes.

Hagrid: I hadn't missed him, and the storyline he brings into the book really does not appeal to me. I like how the trio hold the story of Dementors back as a bargaining chip to get the story of the Giants, though. And that it works. It's not really a good sign: Hagrid has just said that it is more than his job is worth to tell them, and then he is willing to trade information just like that. Granted, they had guessed the main part, but...

I liked the story, really. But yes, he's terrible at keeping secrets - though surprisingly good at keeping that other secret, at the same time.


You mean Grump or Gamp, Gump or whatever his name is?

Cho: I am not a fan. Like Harry's shouting, her crying is too... something. But, she provides a perfect set-up for Hermione shining, so I forgive her.

I don't really mind her here. I like her less at the Valentine's date, though of course she has ample justification for her reaction there as well. The only point that really counts against her in the whole thing is wanting to have a date there in the first place.


Ick. That is a deadly sin on its own.

Hermione: Lovely. Not only having correctly deduced the situation, she cuts to the chase. Her look of disgust at Ron's reaction to the information that Harry and Cho kissed is wonderful beyond words, and Hermione's explanation of the turmoil of Cho's brain is so to the point. But the crowning moment is of course the teaspoon comment.

So it is. Ron's reaction does seem a tad exaggerated - his parents are rather puritan. Well, the whole wizarding world seems rather puritan, really, but his parents in particular (which considering the way they acted themselves at Hogwarts is rather hypocritical). That "scarlet woman" bit is priceless, I don't remember now which book that was in.


Scarlet woman. What was that? I remember it, but I have no idea. Was it Ginny who said it?

Harry: I am not sure what to make of his dream. The false pretences bit of it. Is it because his subconscious knows that he is not actually in love with her, only interested in her because she is popular and looks good? Don't get me started on the phallic broomstick that Hermione tells him to give her.

I hadn't thought of that, and could quite happily have continued not thinking of it. Thank you so much. :P


Well, I don't know whether it is better that he is told to give the broom stick to Cho (I realise the way I phrased it may have made it sound like he was told to give it to Hermione). It makes sense, kind of. A sort of castration fear. Being tied down because he has promised something to Cho.
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Character development. Rebekah - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 2580 Views
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According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* Legolas - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1498 Views
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His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 2718 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2878 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2854 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 2432 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1513 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* StormCrow - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1473 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* Legolas - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1564 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley Seriana Sedai - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 2576 Views
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Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. Camilla - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 2728 Views
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Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM* Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:26:44 PM 1462 Views
Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1556 Views
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I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2598 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2700 Views
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Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 2766 Views
Oh, I think it is. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2644 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2672 Views
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Re: Oh, I think it is. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2650 Views
Prefect picking. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2651 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 2777 Views
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Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2680 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2782 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2823 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1523 Views
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Oh, there's more than that. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2634 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. Camilla - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2725 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2635 Views
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Hmm. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2687 Views
Re: Hmm. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2718 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2725 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2711 Views
You make a good point. aria - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 2724 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2717 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1634 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2635 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2759 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2748 Views
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2694 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* Elaine - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1562 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* Legolas - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1466 Views
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Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2639 Views
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Umbridge StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2736 Views
Re: Umbridge Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2586 Views
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Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2815 Views
Any other comments? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2580 Views
Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2584 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2694 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2590 Views
The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2809 Views
Good point. Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2678 Views
Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM 2724 Views
Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 2721 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 2744 Views
Le plot. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2628 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2779 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 2713 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2729 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 2659 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 2570 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2800 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2722 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2436 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2577 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2739 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2676 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2794 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2582 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2582 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2692 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2610 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2531 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2675 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2708 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2654 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2604 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2703 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2628 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2459 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2609 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2682 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2532 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2534 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2546 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2626 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2495 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2632 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2678 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2744 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1500 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2701 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2607 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2684 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2604 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2559 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2575 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2610 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2429 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2649 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2613 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1461 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2610 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1496 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2877 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2690 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2757 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2749 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1531 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2690 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2627 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2478 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2668 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2636 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2703 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2637 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2690 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2553 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1571 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2740 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2705 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2950 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2672 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2615 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2671 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2790 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2714 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2541 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2648 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1531 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2754 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2669 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2700 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2647 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1466 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2712 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2817 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2588 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2752 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2637 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2720 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2654 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 2787 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 2810 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 2960 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2689 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2578 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2652 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2678 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2647 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2578 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2697 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2590 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2665 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2471 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2714 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2735 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2650 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2661 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2587 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2728 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2696 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2712 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2618 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2599 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2579 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2693 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2647 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2620 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2808 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2728 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2668 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2864 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2530 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2499 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2751 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2787 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2742 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2680 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2632 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2737 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2525 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2748 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2448 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2604 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2812 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2652 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2571 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2594 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2655 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2584 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2719 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2730 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2676 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2604 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2828 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2540 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2834 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2821 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2739 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2653 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2792 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2848 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2658 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2588 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2562 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2771 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2646 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2594 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1601 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1476 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2639 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2676 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2543 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2548 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2635 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 2864 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2736 Views
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