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Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM
What was it Dumbledore saw in the smoke? The "in essence divided"? Is it a reference to Nagini being a Horcrux? Or about Voldemort possessing her? Or about Harry? I cannot make it out.

I was wondering too. Extremely cryptic by Rowling's standards, that - generally she doesn't do that. My best guess is it refers to the manner of Voldemort's possessing Nagini, without necessarily implying he knows about the Horcrux already. A really cryptic way of saying Voldemort isn't an Animagus but just controls Nagini somehow?


Ah, yes. That is a good point. Especially since Harry is about to go on a rant about how Voldemort may be a animagus and that he when possessing him may make him an animagus, too, and then transporting him across London to kill Mr Weasley. Seriously. That is one impressive leap of the imagination.

Also, Sirius tells Kreecher "OUT", which is the ambiguous order that makes it possible for him to throw a spanner in the works. It is interesting how this plot event is handled. The correct theory is voiced -- that he has left the house -- (and by Harry, no less), and then it is matter-of-factly reported that ``Kreecher, it transpired, had been lurking in the attic''. Good burying. It seems like an authoritative, objective narrator correcting the mistaken assumption, but it is anything but. And it is reinforced by Harry finding the explanation lacking. By this time, all readers will have picked up on Harry always being wrong, and now she uses it against us.

Yeah, that was well done. It's also interesting in thematic terms how Harry knows things about house-elves Sirius never realized despite living with them his whole childhood - because Harry has encountered them in such a different way and seen a different side of them.


Yes. To be fair, Sirius probably spent as much time as possible avoiding Kreecher. And Harry's experience with them was kind of forced on him. If Dobby had not showed up it is likely he would never have heard of them (well, with the exception of Winky) -- he never asked how the food got on plates in Hogwarts before book 4.

Broderick Bode gets a mention on the first visit to St. Mungo's, and then the plant is introduced while they visit Lockhart. Just as we are told his language may slowly be returning.

Yeah. One thrown into Azkaban, one in St. Mungo's and assassinated when it looks like he might start talking (though I guess Bode wasn't necessarily under the Imperius, perhaps he just caught them in the act at some point). The Death Eaters have still maintained their secret. Now Rookwood is about to be freed, so there won't be a third attempt until the fateful day.


True.

Incidentally, it seems quite likely that times like these are when Lucius' gifts to St. Mungo's come in handy: he gets inside information on patients of interest, thus allowing timely action.


Good point.

And Sirius' mirror for communicating. I love that touch, as it provides an avenue of communication which Harry could have used. It makes the end all the more tragic because he forgets about it. And the reason why he forgets about it is of course that he, already from the beginning, has resolved never to use it because he connects using it to driving Sirius from the safety of HQ. The reason for not using it is therefore the same as what he ends up doing by not using it. Classic tragic pattern. Did I mention Rowling does the tragedy plot quite well?

Yes, I was thinking of your comments about tragedies when I read that. It is a classic example. Though it's also a pet peeve of mine in books when characters for whatever reason refuse to even consider such a gift or note or whatever and throw it away or ignore it immediately for emotional reasons. Don't they have basic curiosity? Maybe I just don't have strong enough emotions, or too much curiosity. :P


True. I find it hard to believe, too. Althouhg I think Rowling does a good job justifying it here. The attempt to keep Sirius from harm is the overriding impulse of Harry in this book. And he does get distracted when he returns to school.

Similarly, the Occlumency session is what provides Harry with the knowledge he needs to do Voldemort's bidding in going to the Department of Mysteries.

Yeah. I'm not sure how to take the repeated charge that Snape is "opening Harry up for Voldemort" - obviously it isn't his intention, but it does seem to be the effect, and should he not realize that and take measures accordingly?


Well, he tells Harry to practice, and Harry never does. If he did, the sessions might not open him up.

Snape's observation that eye contact is often essential in legilimency provides a reason for Dumbledore's studied avoidance of Harry's eyes.

And adds particular meaning to the way Voldemort walked around his circle of followers and looked into all their eyes last book.


Ah, yes. Good point.

I take it Voldemort's happiness is in relation to the mass outbreak from Azkaban.

I believe so, we'll hear about it in the next chapter.


I thought it might. (I am being very good about not reading ahead.)
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2483 Views
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Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2397 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2483 Views
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Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2384 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2410 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2489 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2450 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2351 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2496 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2538 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2470 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2414 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2499 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2439 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2272 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2423 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2479 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2339 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2333 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2332 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2407 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2306 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2438 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2473 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2539 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1381 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2494 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2436 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2501 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2414 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2365 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2399 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2420 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2224 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2448 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2411 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1333 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2433 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1369 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2686 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2512 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2572 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2533 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1400 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2459 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2447 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2297 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2451 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2450 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2524 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2440 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2497 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2368 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1448 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2544 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2506 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2749 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2487 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2418 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2475 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2615 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2534 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2348 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2446 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1398 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2570 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2471 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2500 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2435 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1322 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2536 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2616 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2402 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2570 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2455 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2531 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2438 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 2598 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 2628 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 2745 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2498 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2379 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2451 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2470 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2463 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2372 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2500 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2406 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2481 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2272 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2521 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2553 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2449 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2474 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2399 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2529 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2503 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2514 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2409 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2399 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2387 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2491 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2455 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2420 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2623 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2527 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2454 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2647 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2330 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2295 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2547 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2602 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2550 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2487 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2460 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2549 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2342 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2556 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2258 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2386 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2606 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2468 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2397 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2408 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2464 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2423 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2538 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2500 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2498 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2424 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2640 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2340 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2630 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2644 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2513 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2453 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2581 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2656 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2447 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2400 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2384 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2595 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2456 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2399 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1476 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1347 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2461 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2493 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2356 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2360 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2469 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 2665 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2542 Views
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