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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM
Twins: I think the moment they decided that they would no longer care about getting into trouble is the moment I realised this would be one of my favourite books of the series. I love the havoc they wreak. And how they set the stage for the teachers' banding together. And then when they finally decide to leave … the conversation they hold between themselves. It is adorable. And then the final moment of advertisement (and the excellent discount idea) -- and Peeves' salute. It all has me giggling like a madwoman. It makes me happy. It is the perfect counterpoint to the horror and Evil that is Umbridge. Once again, breaking the rules entirely is the only way out of her world.

I love it when they get to talking fast and having one thought at the same time. It's brilliant. The scene where they leave is simply brilliant. You're right, Peeves' salute is wonderful. They took it so over the top that Umbridge couldn't even fathom what they were doing or what was going on. She does not do well with disorder and I love it when she has to.

The teachers: I have said it before, and I will say it again. Nothing quite warms my heart like the teachers of Hogwarts banding together with the students to make Umbridge's life miserable. I like Flitwick's pointed comment. It sums up very neatly the trouble with totalitarianism. But the finest moment is probably McGonagall telling Peeves that the chandelier unscrews the other way.

I think this is my favorite book for McGonagall. She isn't a character with the opportunity to show a lot of range, but her against Umbridge allows for her to be more fleshed out.

Cho: I feel it is saying something that when Cho and Harry argue, I am on Harry's side. She really is quite astonishingly dim and irrational at times. I am glad Harry switches her in for a more sensible girl.

Cho is ridiculous. I'm guessing Rowling always knew she wanted Harry with Ginny but didn't want them together before they had dated other people which is why we get stuck with Cho. Harry had to date someone we were happy to see the back of. At least, that's my guess. I can't stand her.

Snape: Harry interprets him as the weak victim of strong bullies in the memory. I think that is a mistake. And not just because of the ``Harry is always wrong'' rule. First of all, we are given this out of context. It is one memory, which does not provide us with the story of earlier encounters. I feel fairly certain that there is a varied pattern there. I don't think they are picking on him because he is weak; quite the contrary, I think they are doing what the twins did to Dudley in an earlier book (although as I see it in a less problematic way): they are picking on him for being part of a group which picks on the weak -- for being associated with the dark arts. The particular comments may not be related to that, but they are the superstructure, not the motivation.

The fact that Snape attacks James when his back is turned backs this up and serves as direct provocation for the more humiliating retaliation. Sirius' impedimenta spell merely held him down; Snape draws blood (to be fair, he is probably also spurred on by the proximity of Lily). His reaction to Lily's help (calling her a mudblood) is also somewhat explained by his embarrassment at this point, but it still speaks volumes about what he considers acceptable.

I don't know that I'll ever understand Snape calling Lily mudblood there. I know he is embarrassed, but she is the love of his life. He doesn't really see her as muggle-born from what I've read, so his comment here makes no sense for me except in the bigger picture that he had to do something unforgivable to lose Lily's loyalty.

James: He is a little full of himself, and clearly approaching Lily in entirely the wrong way, but I don't think his comment to Lily that his motivation for mistreating Snape is merely ``because he exists'' is something to be taken at face value. I stick to my reading as I explained it above. James is arrogant, but he is not bad.

He is arrogant, and here I'm sure he is at his worst. I do like how Harry doesn't try to rationalize what James did and instead sides with Snape. I don't agree with his perception, but I do like how Harry is able to admit that maybe James wasn't as perfect as he had built him up to be.

Sirius: I like that everything he does is done in a dashing way. His comment about Wormtail wetting himself with excitement is cutting, but at this time Harry (who is our resident standard of morality) has been annoyed for a while and thinking that James should ``tell Wormtail to get a grip on himself''.

His comment that he wishes it were the full moon is more problematic, in a way, considering how horrible that is for Lupin. But it serves to establish him even more as someone who lives for daring adventures and danger. Possibly because everything is too easy -- he is not the least worried about his exams.

He is a little dismissive of what must be painful for Lupin to think about or discuss, and while I don't like that particular part, I really do like Sirius here. I almost wonder why James is the leader when I read this passage, just because Sirius seems so cool to me.

Wormtail: He is showing all the traits we have come to expect, being weak and sycophantic. It is perhaps a little too exaggerated -- it makes it less likely that James would trust his life to him.

I think it is overdone as well, but maybe they were both so arrogant they didn't mind how overt Wormtail's hero worship was. Perhaps as they got a handle on their arrogance later Wormtail got a handle on his fawning?

Lupin: Lovely as always. Level-headed. I have heard him called weak because he does not stop the scene, but if my reading is right and this is part of a larger feud, his staying out of it makes sense.

I agree. I lost sympathy for Snape when he attacked from behind. I don't like what James did after, but Snape showed no honor in that action so I don't mind that Lupin didn't step in. I think he learned from watching this though, but I have nothing besides a gut feeling to base that on right now.

Lily: She is cool. I like both her standing up for Snape and her ultimate rejection of him.

I'm glad Harry gets to see Lily in this moment, and in it's fuller context later on. His mother was a very strong, capable woman and he got to see an example of this. Even though his image of his father is dented, he has to be proud of who she was.

Harry: I like how he takes Snape's side in the memory. Especially as I don't. It is a side to his character that … I suppose it is what makes him the hero -- especially in Rowling's universe. It is interesting that he thinks that it would be acceptable to do it to Malfoy.

Yes. The parallel between Draco and Snape is a strong one to me, and for Harry to feel pity for Snape while wishing the same treatment on Malfoy seems to be missing something to me. James must have thought picking on Snape to be alright on the same terms that Harry thinks it would be okay to do that to Malfoy. Harry can be smart at times, I don't know how he misses this one.

I am a little annoyed that he does not think of the mirror when he is so desperate to talk to Sirius. Yes, I know I said it was part of a beautifully structured plot, but on the level of character it is a little unsatisfying.

Gaping plot hole to me. I understand it from the structural standpoint as you say, but seriously?

His whole expedition really is problematic. As Hermione points out, Dumbledore's sacrifice would be in vain if he got caught. And he shows that he is aware that it would reflect very badly on McGonagall. Not to mention that this is not vital stuff. The only possible upshot will be to ease his mind. It is on par with running around risking his life in book 3 (before we knew Sirius was a good guy).

McGonagall: Reading her interaction with Umbridge is a joy. Her mix of ignoring her, correcting her and being downright rude (in a polite way) is wonderful. And when she finally snaps, there is that feeling of unleashing of power which I like so much in Dumbledore. Yes, I gush :<img class=' />

"Are you quite certain you wouldn't like a cough drop Dolores" is freaking brilliant. Everything in that scene is priceless. And the jibe about Harry having good marks from every qualified instructor he'd had. That interview is a beautiful piece of writing.
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A question around that. - 16/09/2010 07:02:11 PM 1953 Views
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I think I remember now - 16/09/2010 07:43:42 PM 1784 Views
Also - 14/09/2010 10:33:06 AM 1910 Views
I agree with you. - 19/09/2010 06:26:48 PM 1989 Views
Try to remember Harry is 15 years old - 14/09/2010 01:39:20 AM 1791 Views
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Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:06 AM 2117 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 08:08:34 AM 1858 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:35 AM 1803 Views
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You're right of course. - 14/09/2010 11:58:06 PM 1850 Views
Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 02:53:13 PM 1850 Views
Re: Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 03:07:28 PM 1869 Views
Pent up over the other installments. - 14/09/2010 03:30:00 PM 1743 Views
The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 01:23:18 AM 1855 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 03:51:06 PM 1935 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 19/09/2010 06:31:11 PM 1881 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise when you say it like that). - 13/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 1940 Views
You stole my title! - 13/09/2010 11:54:06 PM 1917 Views
So I did. - 19/09/2010 06:35:10 PM 1840 Views
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Other stuff. - 13/09/2010 09:22:53 PM 1877 Views
two questions. - 13/09/2010 11:49:28 PM 1762 Views
Answers - 14/09/2010 03:01:58 AM 1835 Views
Re: Answers - 14/09/2010 08:13:17 AM 1891 Views
Agreed. - 14/09/2010 10:17:57 AM 1821 Views
More of Rowling's number problems? *NM* - 19/09/2010 06:36:52 PM 939 Views
Also agreed. - 15/09/2010 01:16:28 AM 1921 Views
Those were totally the two questions I was going to ask. - 15/09/2010 01:13:29 AM 1924 Views
Surprisingly many hilarious little things for a book that's gonna be as dark as this one. - 14/09/2010 10:11:54 AM 1732 Views
That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:14:01 AM 2479 Views
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Re: That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:27:09 AM 1685 Views
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Re: That is why I love it so much. - 15/09/2010 08:31:04 AM 1859 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:40:12 PM 1754 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:43:25 PM 1627 Views
He's incredibly blind, our Harry. - 19/09/2010 06:38:29 PM 1772 Views
I don't find it annoying, really. - 19/09/2010 07:27:11 PM 1650 Views
I dislike it intensely. - 22/09/2010 12:55:56 PM 1802 Views
Ah, like that. - 22/09/2010 01:09:40 PM 1812 Views
Wednesday 15 September: chapters 4-6 *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:25:46 PM 994 Views
Characters: still interesting? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:26 AM 1002 Views
Yes - 15/09/2010 11:12:36 AM 1897 Views
You write your posts out in Word and then copypaste them? Why? - 15/09/2010 11:43:29 AM 1830 Views
No. I don't even have Word. - 15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM 1744 Views
Or some other program, whatever. - 15/09/2010 12:02:55 PM 1713 Views
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Kreacher. - 16/09/2010 03:43:57 AM 1818 Views
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Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 16/09/2010 04:25:36 AM 1845 Views
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Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 17/09/2010 04:32:55 AM 1772 Views
Plot: how's that coming along? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:45 AM 976 Views
tragically? - 15/09/2010 11:12:10 AM 1858 Views
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Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:47:06 PM 1972 Views
Yes. And the one who will get the fantastic line at the end of the book. *NM* - 15/09/2010 04:08:47 PM 991 Views
I have forgotten that - 15/09/2010 04:10:57 PM 1832 Views
Well, it may not be that fantastic, but it's pretty amusing. - 15/09/2010 04:12:55 PM 1781 Views
Ah, yes - 15/09/2010 04:14:15 PM 1783 Views
Oh I thought you were talking about the one where he tells the Minister - 15/09/2010 10:03:57 PM 1856 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:08:03 AM 1911 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:32:57 AM 1819 Views
Thanks. - 17/09/2010 04:34:30 AM 1780 Views
Happy to help! - 20/09/2010 05:13:52 AM 1794 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 09:29:32 AM 1942 Views
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Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:44:48 AM 1916 Views
'tisn't. - 16/09/2010 03:24:05 PM 1831 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:43:50 AM 1785 Views
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The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 12:05:57 PM 1750 Views
A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 04:21:25 PM 1892 Views
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Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 09:19:30 AM 1874 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 10:20:32 PM 1890 Views
Lots of things happening in here that come back up in future books - 17/09/2010 04:41:02 PM 1757 Views
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Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM 1924 Views
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Well... - 17/09/2010 08:18:07 PM 1771 Views
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It's like those old chip commercials. It's hard to just read one. - 20/09/2010 01:13:20 AM 1851 Views
Re: The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 06:18:34 PM 1939 Views
Character development. - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 1769 Views
Mrs. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:23:20 PM 1825 Views
Agree here, but I can understand why she's cracking up a bit. - 17/09/2010 04:46:30 PM 1906 Views
Don't know if you noticed it, but the death of her brothers is actually mentioned here. - 17/09/2010 04:56:01 PM 1711 Views
Yes - 17/09/2010 06:20:34 PM 1836 Views
I don't know how I missed it. - 19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM 1830 Views
I believe we never get her maiden name in the series itself - it's from some family tree or the like - 19/09/2010 04:25:13 PM 1840 Views
Are you sure? - 19/09/2010 05:14:14 PM 1813 Views
No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so. - 19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM 1839 Views
According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 951 Views
Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 19/09/2010 07:37:11 PM 1746 Views
Re: Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 20/09/2010 05:06:33 AM 1696 Views
Re: Mrs. Weasley - 18/09/2010 03:14:53 PM 1856 Views
Mr. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:54:49 PM 1895 Views
He is lovely. - 17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM 1735 Views
His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 1872 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2019 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2027 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 1612 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 979 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 922 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1023 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 1789 Views
Re: Character development. - 17/09/2010 06:17:37 PM 1898 Views
Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:27:13 PM 1858 Views
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Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 1845 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 06:13:25 PM 1839 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 18/09/2010 03:11:48 PM 1849 Views
Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:26:44 PM 910 Views
Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1009 Views
Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Harry, Umbridge and McGonnagall - 20/09/2010 03:44:01 PM 1726 Views
I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 1758 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 1839 Views
Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 05:43:57 PM 1853 Views
Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 1935 Views
Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 1754 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 1808 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 1840 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 1780 Views
Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 1831 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 1965 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 08:59:58 AM 1634 Views
Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 1803 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 1919 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 1937 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 980 Views
Not much in these chapters - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 1866 Views
Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 1837 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 1888 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 1808 Views
I did not get that from the passage - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 1783 Views
Hmm. - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 1824 Views
Re: Hmm. - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 1873 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 1872 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 1867 Views
You make a good point. - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 1889 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 1850 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1103 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 1814 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 1959 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 1922 Views
Who knows? Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM* - 22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM 990 Views
True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 1850 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1016 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 922 Views
Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England? - 23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM 1714 Views
I know there was one in book 4 - 23/09/2010 06:43:34 PM 1744 Views
That's right, talking shop with Dad. - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 1744 Views
Themes - 20/09/2010 08:05:17 AM 1728 Views
Bigotry and control - 20/09/2010 03:49:49 PM 1896 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 995 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 1741 Views
Re: Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 22/09/2010 02:57:03 AM 1897 Views
For some reason... - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 1916 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 1798 Views
Wednesday 22 September: chapters 13-15 ~ School gets interesting. - 13/09/2010 09:27:09 PM 1940 Views
Character development: how are our three main characters getting along? - 22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM 1708 Views
Some interesting developments, I thought. - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 1876 Views
Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 1814 Views
Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM 1715 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 08:37:18 AM 1826 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 02:51:13 PM 1748 Views
Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 1917 Views
Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 1914 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:15:16 PM 1764 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 1798 Views
Umbridge - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 1929 Views
Re: Umbridge - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 1756 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 1869 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 1988 Views
Any other comments? - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 1760 Views
Erm. - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 1784 Views
Re: Erm. - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 1862 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 1823 Views
The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 1926 Views
Good point. - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 1871 Views
Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army - 13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM 1895 Views
Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 1888 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 1916 Views
Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 1769 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 1990 Views
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Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 1899 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 1777 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 1735 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 1975 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 1893 Views
Anything else? - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 1607 Views
Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 1740 Views
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Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 1887 Views
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Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 1764 Views
Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 1771 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 1866 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 1857 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 1716 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 1839 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 1886 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 1831 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 1848 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1651 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 1797 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 1861 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 1706 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 1700 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 1676 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 1766 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 1665 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 1826 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 1839 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 1874 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 953 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 1837 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 1775 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 1851 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 1768 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 1745 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 1731 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 1814 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1607 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 1809 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 1796 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 906 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 1799 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 968 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 1985 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 1874 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 1917 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 1902 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 980 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 1835 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 1826 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 1656 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 1810 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 1825 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 1857 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 1729 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 992 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 1911 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 1795 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 1872 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 1782 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 905 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 1905 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2017 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 1787 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 1922 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 1814 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 1897 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 1810 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 1957 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 1837 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 1859 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 1823 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 1724 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 1837 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 1802 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 1857 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 1658 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 1888 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 1917 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 1811 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 1833 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 1798 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 1804 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 1784 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 1868 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 1816 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 1781 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 1971 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 1904 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 1813 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2004 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 1711 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 1670 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 1901 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 1919 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 1906 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 1873 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 1812 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 1909 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 1700 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 1896 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1613 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 1763 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 1989 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 1831 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 1757 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 1778 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 1834 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 1807 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 1912 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 1856 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 1789 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 1938 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 1672 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2006 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2003 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 1853 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 1824 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 1954 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 1981 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 1822 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 1759 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 1748 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 1940 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 1798 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1750 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1062 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 1837 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 1835 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 1756 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 1735 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 1930 Views

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