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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM
Twins: I think the moment they decided that they would no longer care about getting into trouble is the moment I realised this would be one of my favourite books of the series. I love the havoc they wreak. And how they set the stage for the teachers' banding together. And then when they finally decide to leave … the conversation they hold between themselves. It is adorable. And then the final moment of advertisement (and the excellent discount idea) -- and Peeves' salute. It all has me giggling like a madwoman. It makes me happy. It is the perfect counterpoint to the horror and Evil that is Umbridge. Once again, breaking the rules entirely is the only way out of her world.

It is indeed one of the most memorable scenes of the entire series.
Cho: I feel it is saying something that when Cho and Harry argue, I am on Harry's side. She really is quite astonishingly dim and irrational at times. I am glad Harry switches her in for a more sensible girl.

I disagree. As I've said before - and you agreed at the time - Cho seems like a cool girl who gets the short end of the stick from Rowling because of that awkward fling with Harry. All of her reactions make ample sense from her PoV, though - it's just the circumstances are so difficult that it was never really going to work.
Snape: Harry interprets him as the weak victim of strong bullies in the memory. I think that is a mistake. And not just because of the ``Harry is always wrong'' rule. First of all, we are given this out of context. It is one memory, which does not provide us with the story of earlier encounters. I feel fairly certain that there is a varied pattern there. I don't think they are picking on him because he is weak; quite the contrary, I think they are doing what the twins did to Dudley in an earlier book (although as I see it in a less problematic way): they are picking on him for being part of a group which picks on the weak -- for being associated with the dark arts. The particular comments may not be related to that, but they are the superstructure, not the motivation.

I think you're still biased by your fan-fic. :P Bullying is bullying, whatever excuses they offer for them. And as Harry notes, they start to bully him because they feel bored, not for any other reason. Of course Lupin and Sirius are right that it doesn't mean they are bad people, and it certainly doesn't mean Snape is an innocent victim, but it is what it is, and it isn't pretty, alright.
The fact that Snape attacks James when his back is turned backs this up and serves as direct provocation for the more humiliating retaliation. Sirius' impedimenta spell merely held him down; Snape draws blood (to be fair, he is probably also spurred on by the proximity of Lily). His reaction to Lily's help (calling her a mudblood) is also somewhat explained by his embarrassment at this point, but it still speaks volumes about what he considers acceptable.

I'm not really happy with that part of the scene, in the light of the later revelations. Snape's calling her a mudblood strains credulity as it is, but it's Lily's reaction that is the most baffling. Is she really that much of a sphinx that she doesn't show the slightest sign of feeling hurt other than blinking, and merely insults him right back - borrowing James' insult, too?
James: He is a little full of himself, and clearly approaching Lily in entirely the wrong way, but I don't think his comment to Lily that his motivation for mistreating Snape is merely ``because he exists'' is something to be taken at face value. I stick to my reading as I explained it above. James is arrogant, but he is not bad.

What is "bad"? Most bullies aren't "bad" in the sense you seem to mean it, and bully more out of boredom or to impress their friends than out of any real malice or cruelty. James is as "bad" as, say, Draco Malfoy. Fortunately, they both grow up.
His comment that he wishes it were the full moon is more problematic, in a way, considering how horrible that is for Lupin. But it serves to establish him even more as someone who lives for daring adventures and danger. Possibly because everything is too easy -- he is not the least worried about his exams.

Yeah. That attitude must've made his time in Azkaban all the harsher in contrast.
Wormtail: He is showing all the traits we have come to expect, being weak and sycophantic. It is perhaps a little too exaggerated -- it makes it less likely that James would trust his life to him.

Agreed.
Lily: She is cool. I like both her standing up for Snape and her ultimate rejection of him.

As I said above, I find her reaction strange. I suppose we never really see enough of her to know her character, know whether she is indeed capable of perfectly concealing the hurt feelings she must have. Or perhaps it's just plot convenience here - if she had displayed a more logical reaction in the light of the later revelations, those revelations wouldn't have been as surprising.
Harry: I like how he takes Snape's side in the memory. Especially as I don't. It is a side to his character that … I suppose it is what makes him the hero -- especially in Rowling's universe. It is interesting that he thinks that it would be acceptable to do it to Malfoy.

I think it has a lot to do with how the Marauders are still seeing everything as a lark and have had little reason to take things seriously, whereas Snape, like Harry, is more mature that way, forced by the circumstances. Most children do indeed do stupid things at fifteen that they are later ashamed of; Harry has been forced to be more mature, and has a hard time understanding such immaturity.
I am a little annoyed that he does not think of the mirror when he is so desperate to talk to Sirius. Yes, I know I said it was part of a beautifully structured plot, but on the level of character it is a little unsatisfying.

He doesn't know about the mirror. The only thing he knows is Sirius' vague description of it, but he's immediately decided not to use it and so quite naturally doesn't remember it when thinking of ways to contact Sirius.
His whole expedition really is problematic. As Hermione points out, Dumbledore's sacrifice would be in vain if he got caught. And he shows that he is aware that it would reflect very badly on McGonagall. Not to mention that this is not vital stuff. The only possible upshot will be to ease his mind. It is on par with running around risking his life in book 3 (before we knew Sirius was a good guy).

Agreed. I don't remember now whether his getting caught the next time has to do with having left traces this time, but it might be, so that makes it even worse.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Five - The Order of the Phoenix - 13/09/2010 09:14:51 PM 3862 Views
Monday 13 September: chapters 1-3 - Dementors, owls and a daring rescue. *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:18:29 PM 1111 Views
New characters and characters old. - 13/09/2010 09:20:39 PM 1883 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 13/09/2010 11:55:04 PM 1846 Views
Going to try to be succinct here and not get into endless back-and-forths... we'll see. - 14/09/2010 12:15:58 AM 1769 Views
Re: Going to try to be succinct here and not get into endless back-and-forths... we'll see. - 14/09/2010 09:00:37 AM 1836 Views
News / Petunia / Snape / Tonks - 14/09/2010 04:40:01 PM 1970 Views
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If you are having trouble with quotes, you can set it up so it always does the paragraphs thing. - 14/09/2010 05:17:28 PM 1897 Views
I know *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:19:49 PM 1053 Views
It wasn't you I was talking to. *NM* - 14/09/2010 05:22:52 PM 1047 Views
Then why did you reply to me? - 14/09/2010 05:30:14 PM 1769 Views
To subtly point out that if you were going to make that remark, you could also have given the tip. - 14/09/2010 06:15:55 PM 1845 Views
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Thanks, that was driving me nuts and I had to actually get back to work... - 14/09/2010 06:40:19 PM 1811 Views
Re: Thanks, that was driving me nuts and I had to actually get back to work... - 14/09/2010 07:25:07 PM 1949 Views
If I lurk effectively, you won't even see me. - 16/09/2010 06:54:13 PM 1889 Views
You just made my life so much easier! - 15/09/2010 12:06:29 AM 1846 Views
You were just showing off with your reply weren't you? Segmenting the quotes like that. - 14/09/2010 06:53:03 PM 1923 Views
Re: You were just showing off with your reply weren't you? Segmenting the quotes like that. - 14/09/2010 07:24:28 PM 2005 Views
A question around that. - 16/09/2010 07:02:11 PM 1953 Views
Re: A question around that. - 16/09/2010 07:04:37 PM 1879 Views
After the end of OotP, it's widely known he's back. - 16/09/2010 07:12:19 PM 2012 Views
I think I remember now - 16/09/2010 07:43:42 PM 1784 Views
Also - 14/09/2010 10:33:06 AM 1910 Views
I agree with you. - 19/09/2010 06:26:48 PM 1989 Views
Try to remember Harry is 15 years old - 14/09/2010 01:39:20 AM 1791 Views
I know. - 14/09/2010 09:02:08 AM 1827 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 03:26:27 AM 1997 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:06 AM 2116 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 08:08:34 AM 1858 Views
Re: New characters and characters old. - 14/09/2010 09:05:35 AM 1803 Views
Actually - 14/09/2010 02:41:22 PM 1794 Views
You're right of course. - 14/09/2010 11:58:06 PM 1850 Views
Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 02:53:13 PM 1850 Views
Re: Harry's rage. - 14/09/2010 03:07:28 PM 1869 Views
Pent up over the other installments. - 14/09/2010 03:30:00 PM 1743 Views
The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 01:23:18 AM 1855 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 15/09/2010 03:51:06 PM 1935 Views
Re: The Dursleys. - 19/09/2010 06:31:11 PM 1881 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise when you say it like that). - 13/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 1940 Views
You stole my title! - 13/09/2010 11:54:06 PM 1917 Views
So I did. - 19/09/2010 06:35:10 PM 1840 Views
Re: So I did. - 19/09/2010 06:39:49 PM 1896 Views
Other stuff. - 13/09/2010 09:22:53 PM 1876 Views
two questions. - 13/09/2010 11:49:28 PM 1760 Views
Answers - 14/09/2010 03:01:58 AM 1835 Views
Re: Answers - 14/09/2010 08:13:17 AM 1890 Views
Agreed. - 14/09/2010 10:17:57 AM 1819 Views
More of Rowling's number problems? *NM* - 19/09/2010 06:36:52 PM 938 Views
Also agreed. - 15/09/2010 01:16:28 AM 1921 Views
Those were totally the two questions I was going to ask. - 15/09/2010 01:13:29 AM 1923 Views
Surprisingly many hilarious little things for a book that's gonna be as dark as this one. - 14/09/2010 10:11:54 AM 1732 Views
That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:14:01 AM 2479 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:19:50 AM 1924 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 14/09/2010 10:27:09 AM 1685 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 15/09/2010 03:09:52 AM 1952 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 15/09/2010 08:31:04 AM 1859 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:40:12 PM 1754 Views
Re: That is why I love it so much. - 19/09/2010 06:43:25 PM 1627 Views
He's incredibly blind, our Harry. - 19/09/2010 06:38:29 PM 1772 Views
I don't find it annoying, really. - 19/09/2010 07:27:11 PM 1650 Views
I dislike it intensely. - 22/09/2010 12:55:56 PM 1802 Views
Ah, like that. - 22/09/2010 01:09:40 PM 1812 Views
Wednesday 15 September: chapters 4-6 *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:25:46 PM 994 Views
Characters: still interesting? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:26 AM 1002 Views
Yes - 15/09/2010 11:12:36 AM 1897 Views
You write your posts out in Word and then copypaste them? Why? - 15/09/2010 11:43:29 AM 1830 Views
No. I don't even have Word. - 15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM 1744 Views
Or some other program, whatever. - 15/09/2010 12:02:55 PM 1713 Views
Re: Or some other program, whatever. - 15/09/2010 12:07:02 PM 2018 Views
Kreacher. - 16/09/2010 03:43:57 AM 1817 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 04:17:39 AM 1908 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 09:36:22 AM 1875 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 04:28:54 AM 1950 Views
Re: Yes - 16/09/2010 10:02:16 AM 1902 Views
Re: Yes - 17/09/2010 06:00:26 AM 1734 Views
Re: Yes - 17/09/2010 09:01:28 AM 1829 Views
Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 16/09/2010 04:25:36 AM 1845 Views
Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 16/09/2010 09:41:44 AM 1857 Views
Re: Sirius and Sirius' mother. - 17/09/2010 04:32:55 AM 1772 Views
Plot: how's that coming along? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:13:45 AM 976 Views
tragically? - 15/09/2010 11:12:10 AM 1858 Views
Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:42:29 PM 1919 Views
Re: tragically? - 15/09/2010 03:47:06 PM 1970 Views
Yes. And the one who will get the fantastic line at the end of the book. *NM* - 15/09/2010 04:08:47 PM 991 Views
I have forgotten that - 15/09/2010 04:10:57 PM 1832 Views
Well, it may not be that fantastic, but it's pretty amusing. - 15/09/2010 04:12:55 PM 1781 Views
Ah, yes - 15/09/2010 04:14:15 PM 1783 Views
Oh I thought you were talking about the one where he tells the Minister - 15/09/2010 10:03:57 PM 1856 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:08:03 AM 1911 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 04:32:57 AM 1819 Views
Thanks. - 17/09/2010 04:34:30 AM 1780 Views
Happy to help! - 20/09/2010 05:13:52 AM 1794 Views
Re: tragically? - 16/09/2010 09:29:32 AM 1942 Views
Other things: ? *NM* - 15/09/2010 08:14:56 AM 984 Views
Ridiculing asides - 15/09/2010 11:12:43 AM 1933 Views
Black's House of Horrors - 15/09/2010 03:44:18 PM 1806 Views
Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 03:35:05 AM 1953 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 03:48:50 AM 1843 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 04:02:04 AM 1835 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:44:48 AM 1916 Views
'tisn't. - 16/09/2010 03:24:05 PM 1831 Views
Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity. - 16/09/2010 09:43:50 AM 1785 Views
Friday 17 September: The Ministry of Magic, Harry's Hearing, and that thing with Mrs Weasley - 13/09/2010 09:26:16 PM 1877 Views
The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 12:05:57 PM 1750 Views
A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 04:21:25 PM 1892 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 05:10:24 PM 1766 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 17/09/2010 06:36:37 PM 1892 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 05:51:24 AM 1842 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 09:19:30 AM 1874 Views
Re: A few thoughts - 19/09/2010 10:20:32 PM 1890 Views
Lots of things happening in here that come back up in future books - 17/09/2010 04:41:02 PM 1757 Views
Re: Lots of things happening in here that comes back up in future books - 17/09/2010 06:31:44 PM 1768 Views
Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM 1924 Views
Re: Timing messed up again. - 17/09/2010 07:13:41 PM 1893 Views
Well... - 17/09/2010 08:18:07 PM 1771 Views
Re: Well... - 19/09/2010 02:14:01 AM 1829 Views
It's like those old chip commercials. It's hard to just read one. - 20/09/2010 01:13:20 AM 1851 Views
Re: The plot thickens. - 17/09/2010 06:18:34 PM 1939 Views
Character development. - 17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM 1769 Views
Mrs. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:23:20 PM 1824 Views
Agree here, but I can understand why she's cracking up a bit. - 17/09/2010 04:46:30 PM 1906 Views
Don't know if you noticed it, but the death of her brothers is actually mentioned here. - 17/09/2010 04:56:01 PM 1711 Views
Yes - 17/09/2010 06:20:34 PM 1836 Views
I don't know how I missed it. - 19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM 1830 Views
I believe we never get her maiden name in the series itself - it's from some family tree or the like - 19/09/2010 04:25:13 PM 1840 Views
Are you sure? - 19/09/2010 05:14:14 PM 1813 Views
No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so. - 19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM 1839 Views
According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 951 Views
Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 19/09/2010 07:37:11 PM 1746 Views
Re: Maybe that is what I am thinking of - 20/09/2010 05:06:33 AM 1696 Views
Re: Mrs. Weasley - 18/09/2010 03:14:53 PM 1856 Views
Mr. Weasley - 17/09/2010 04:54:49 PM 1895 Views
He is lovely. - 17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM 1735 Views
His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM 1872 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2019 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2027 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 1612 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 979 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 922 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1023 Views
Re: Mr. Weasley - 19/09/2010 05:35:34 AM 1788 Views
Re: Character development. - 17/09/2010 06:17:37 PM 1898 Views
Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:27:13 PM 1858 Views
Re: Percy and Prefect Ron. - 18/09/2010 03:35:30 PM 1884 Views
Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM 1845 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 17/09/2010 06:13:25 PM 1839 Views
Re: Other things of note. - 18/09/2010 03:11:48 PM 1849 Views
Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:26:44 PM 910 Views
Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1009 Views
Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Harry, Umbridge and McGonnagall - 20/09/2010 03:44:01 PM 1725 Views
I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 1758 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 1839 Views
Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 05:43:57 PM 1853 Views
Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 1934 Views
Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 1754 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 1808 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 1840 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 1780 Views
Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 1831 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 03:07:13 AM 1965 Views
Re: Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Umbridge - 22/09/2010 08:59:58 AM 1634 Views
Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 1803 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 1919 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 1937 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 980 Views
Not much in these chapters - 20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM 1866 Views
Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 1837 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 1888 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 1808 Views
I did not get that from the passage - 20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM 1783 Views
Hmm. - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 1824 Views
Re: Hmm. - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 1873 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 1872 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 1867 Views
You make a good point. - 21/09/2010 03:12:10 PM 1889 Views
Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 1850 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1103 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 1814 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 1959 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 1922 Views
Who knows? Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM* - 22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM 990 Views
True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 1850 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1016 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 922 Views
Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England? - 23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM 1714 Views
I know there was one in book 4 - 23/09/2010 06:43:34 PM 1744 Views
That's right, talking shop with Dad. - 23/09/2010 07:40:42 PM 1744 Views
Themes - 20/09/2010 08:05:17 AM 1728 Views
Bigotry and control - 20/09/2010 03:49:49 PM 1896 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM 995 Views
Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM 1741 Views
Re: Thestrals & Hufflepuff - 22/09/2010 02:57:03 AM 1897 Views
For some reason... - 22/09/2010 03:24:14 AM 1916 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 1798 Views
Wednesday 22 September: chapters 13-15 ~ School gets interesting. - 13/09/2010 09:27:09 PM 1940 Views
Character development: how are our three main characters getting along? - 22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM 1708 Views
Some interesting developments, I thought. - 22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM 1876 Views
Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 1814 Views
Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM 1715 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 08:37:18 AM 1826 Views
Re: Dumbledore, this really bugs me - 23/09/2010 02:51:13 PM 1748 Views
Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 1917 Views
Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM 1914 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:15:16 PM 1764 Views
Re: Action and reaction - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 1798 Views
Umbridge - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 1929 Views
Re: Umbridge - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 1756 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 1869 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 1988 Views
Any other comments? - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 1760 Views
Erm. - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 1784 Views
Re: Erm. - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 1862 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 1823 Views
The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 1925 Views
Good point. - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 1871 Views
Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army - 13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM 1895 Views
Character development: Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. - 24/09/2010 05:05:43 PM 1888 Views
Ron, Hermione, Cho, Weasley children, Neville, Trelawny, Sirius - 24/09/2010 07:07:28 PM 1916 Views
Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 1769 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 1990 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 1909 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 1899 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 1777 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 1734 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 1975 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 1893 Views
Anything else? - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 1607 Views
Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 1740 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 1854 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 1887 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 1960 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 1764 Views
Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 1771 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 1866 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 1857 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 1716 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 1839 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 1886 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 1831 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 1848 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 1782 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1651 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 1797 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 1861 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 1706 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 1700 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 1676 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 1766 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 1665 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 1826 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 1839 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 1874 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 953 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 1837 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 1775 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 1851 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 1768 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 1745 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 1731 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 1814 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1607 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 1809 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 1796 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 906 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 1799 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 968 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 1985 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 1874 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 1917 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 1902 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 980 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 1835 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 1826 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 1656 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 1810 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 1825 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 1857 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 1729 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 992 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 1911 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 1795 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 1872 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 1782 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 905 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 1905 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2017 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 1787 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 1922 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 1813 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 1897 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 1810 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 1814 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 1837 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 1859 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 1823 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 1724 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 1837 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 1802 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 1857 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 1658 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 1888 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 1917 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 1811 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 1833 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 1798 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 1804 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 1784 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 1868 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 1816 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 1781 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 1971 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 1904 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 1813 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2004 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 1711 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 1670 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 1901 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 1919 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 1906 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 1873 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 1812 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 1909 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 1700 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 1895 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1613 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 1763 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 1989 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 1831 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 1757 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 1778 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 1834 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 1807 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 1912 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 1856 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 1789 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 1938 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 1671 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2006 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2003 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 1853 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 1824 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 1954 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 1981 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 1822 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 1759 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 1747 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 1940 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 1798 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1750 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1062 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 1837 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 1835 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 1755 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 1735 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 1929 Views

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