Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore
Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM
Oooh, another good point that completely escaped me. I agree. Although, I don't think she remembers the prophecy at all, so she couldn't actually tell anyone. Could she lift the prophecy from the shelf?
Fairly sure she could, yes, but we'll know for sure when we get there. And she doesn't remember it actively, but who knows about subconsciously? Let's not forget Voldemort got the Barty Crouch thing out of Bertha Jorkins despite the Memory Charm on her - maybe he can access Trelawney's subconscious, too.
There is of course also the possibility that she could Prophecy again.
And there's that, yes.
True. It is interesting that after having been told time and time again by Hermione (and Snape) that you cannot possibly under any circumstances apparate or disapparate in or out of Hogwarts because it is impossible and why can't we remember that, Dumbledore does precisely that. Or, probably not precisely that, but something very reminiscent of it. Again with the omnipotence, as you quite correctly remarked.
It's Fawkes who disappears, Dumbledore is just along for the ride. Phoenixes (phoenices?) have their own magic, I suppose, just like house-elves.
The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Five - The Order of the Phoenix
13/09/2010 09:14:51 PM
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Monday 13 September: chapters 1-3 - Dementors, owls and a daring rescue. *NM*
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New characters and characters old.
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Re: New characters and characters old.
13/09/2010 11:55:04 PM
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Going to try to be succinct here and not get into endless back-and-forths... we'll see.
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Re: Going to try to be succinct here and not get into endless back-and-forths... we'll see.
14/09/2010 09:00:37 AM
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News / Petunia / Snape / Tonks
14/09/2010 04:40:01 PM
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Having trouble with quotes?
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If you are having trouble with quotes, you can set it up so it always does the paragraphs thing.
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I know
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It wasn't you I was talking to.
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Then why did you reply to me?
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To subtly point out that if you were going to make that remark, you could also have given the tip.
14/09/2010 06:15:55 PM
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Thanks, that was driving me nuts and I had to actually get back to work...
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Re: Thanks, that was driving me nuts and I had to actually get back to work...
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You were just showing off with your reply weren't you? Segmenting the quotes like that.
14/09/2010 06:53:03 PM
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Re: You were just showing off with your reply weren't you? Segmenting the quotes like that.
14/09/2010 07:24:28 PM
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A question around that.
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Re: A question around that.
16/09/2010 07:04:37 PM
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Yeah, maybe my timing is off there. No biggie, in the grand scheme of things.
16/09/2010 07:07:33 PM
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After the end of OotP, it's widely known he's back.
16/09/2010 07:12:19 PM
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I think I remember now
16/09/2010 07:43:42 PM
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I was thinking there were some smaller attacks / break ins that got similar treatment here.
16/09/2010 08:30:57 PM
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Re: New characters and characters old.
14/09/2010 08:08:34 AM
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The Dursleys.
15/09/2010 01:23:18 AM
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise when you say it like that).
13/09/2010 09:22:27 PM
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Other stuff.
13/09/2010 09:22:53 PM
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two questions.
13/09/2010 11:49:28 PM
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Answers
14/09/2010 03:01:58 AM
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Surprisingly many hilarious little things for a book that's gonna be as dark as this one.
14/09/2010 10:11:54 AM
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That is why I love it so much.
14/09/2010 10:14:01 AM
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Re: That is why I love it so much.
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Re: That is why I love it so much.
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He's incredibly blind, our Harry.
19/09/2010 06:38:29 PM
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I don't find it annoying, really.
19/09/2010 07:27:11 PM
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Wednesday 15 September: chapters 4-6 *NM*
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Characters: still interesting? *NM*
15/09/2010 08:13:26 AM
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Yes
15/09/2010 11:12:36 AM
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You write your posts out in Word and then copypaste them? Why?
15/09/2010 11:43:29 AM
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No. I don't even have Word.
15/09/2010 11:52:02 AM
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Sirius and Sirius' mother.
16/09/2010 04:25:36 AM
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Plot: how's that coming along? *NM*
15/09/2010 08:13:45 AM
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tragically?
15/09/2010 11:12:10 AM
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Re: tragically?
15/09/2010 03:42:29 PM
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Re: tragically?
15/09/2010 03:47:06 PM
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Yes. And the one who will get the fantastic line at the end of the book. *NM*
15/09/2010 04:08:47 PM
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I have forgotten that
15/09/2010 04:10:57 PM
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Well, it may not be that fantastic, but it's pretty amusing.
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Oh I thought you were talking about the one where he tells the Minister
15/09/2010 10:03:57 PM
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Re: tragically?
16/09/2010 04:08:03 AM
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Other things: ? *NM*
15/09/2010 08:14:56 AM
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Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity.
16/09/2010 03:35:05 AM
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Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity.
16/09/2010 03:48:50 AM
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Re: Percy and Rowling's handling of profanity.
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Friday 17 September: The Ministry of Magic, Harry's Hearing, and that thing with Mrs Weasley
13/09/2010 09:26:16 PM
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The plot thickens.
17/09/2010 12:05:57 PM
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A few thoughts
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Re: A few thoughts
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Re: A few thoughts
19/09/2010 05:51:24 AM
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Lots of things happening in here that come back up in future books
17/09/2010 04:41:02 PM
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Re: Lots of things happening in here that comes back up in future books
17/09/2010 06:31:44 PM
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Timing messed up again.
17/09/2010 07:10:31 PM
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Re: Timing messed up again.
17/09/2010 07:13:41 PM
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Well...
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Re: Well...
19/09/2010 02:14:01 AM
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It's like those old chip commercials. It's hard to just read one.
20/09/2010 01:13:20 AM
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Character development.
17/09/2010 12:06:52 PM
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Mrs. Weasley
17/09/2010 04:23:20 PM
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Agree here, but I can understand why she's cracking up a bit.
17/09/2010 04:46:30 PM
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Don't know if you noticed it, but the death of her brothers is actually mentioned here.
17/09/2010 04:56:01 PM
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That's a good catch. I remember reading it, but don't think I connected it back to the Weasleys.
17/09/2010 07:14:12 PM
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I don't know how I missed it.
19/09/2010 02:16:11 AM
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I believe we never get her maiden name in the series itself - it's from some family tree or the like
19/09/2010 04:25:13 PM
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Are you sure?
19/09/2010 05:14:14 PM
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No. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't know where to look for it, if so.
19/09/2010 07:29:18 PM
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According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM*
19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM
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Mr. Weasley
17/09/2010 04:54:49 PM
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He is lovely.
17/09/2010 06:22:27 PM
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His shifts between the two are handled nicely.
17/09/2010 07:19:38 PM
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Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely.
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Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely.
17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM
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It's cheesy. *NM*
17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM
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Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM*
20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM
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Other things of note.
17/09/2010 12:07:33 PM
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Monday 20 September: chapters 10-12 ~ Back to school *NM*
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Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM*
20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM
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Draco, Ginny, Luna, Neville, Harry, Umbridge and McGonnagall
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I think McGonagall kind of fails there.
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Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there.
20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM
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Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear?
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Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear?
20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM
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Oh, I think it is.
20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM
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Weasley goodness.
22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM
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Plot: things you've noticed. *NM*
20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM
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Not much in these chapters
20/09/2010 03:45:55 PM
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Oh, there's more than that.
20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM
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I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior.
20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM
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I did not get that from the passage
20/09/2010 05:19:45 PM
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Hmm.
20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM
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Re: Hmm.
20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM
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Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country.
22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM
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Yes
22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM
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Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian".
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Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian".
22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM
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Who knows?
Don't think we've seen much discussion of religion in the wizarding world. *NM*
22/09/2010 10:02:30 AM
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On their broomsticks, obviously
*NM*
23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM
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In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually.
*NM*
23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM
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Wasn't there a mention of someone trying to smuggle flying carpets into England?
23/09/2010 06:17:58 PM
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Anything else? *NM*
20/09/2010 08:05:33 AM
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Thestrals & Hufflepuff
20/09/2010 03:50:34 PM
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Wednesday 22 September: chapters 13-15 ~ School gets interesting.
13/09/2010 09:27:09 PM
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Character development: how are our three main characters getting along?
22/09/2010 12:43:53 PM
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Dumbledore, Umbridge, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Harry, Percy ad McGonnagall.
22/09/2010 12:49:12 PM
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Some interesting developments, I thought.
22/09/2010 01:57:42 PM
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Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited
22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM
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Dumbledore, this really bugs me
23/09/2010 03:39:28 AM
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Plot progression, and continuing themes.
22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM
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Action and reaction
22/09/2010 12:50:35 PM
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Re: Action and reaction
22/09/2010 02:15:16 PM
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Any other comments?
22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM
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Friday 24 September: chapters 16-18 ~ Dumbledore's Army
13/09/2010 09:27:50 PM
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Le plot.
24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM
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Reaction -- the forming of the DA
24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM
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Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA
27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM
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Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA
27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM
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Anything else?
24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM
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Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals.
13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM
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Les Characters
27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM
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Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry
27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM
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Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry
27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM
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Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry
27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM
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Plot - are we happy with what's happening?
27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM
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Definitely some things of note!
27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM
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Re: Definitely some things of note!
27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM
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Any other thoughts?
27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM
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Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants
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Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants
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Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants
27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM
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Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24
13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM
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Characters and characterisation *NM*
29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM
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High emotions.
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Re: High emotions.
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Re: High emotions.
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Re: High emotions.
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Re: High emotions.
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Re: High emotions.
29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM
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Plotting and plot continuity *NM*
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Re: Plotting and plot continuity
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Re: Plotting and plot continuity
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Other things of note. *NM*
29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM
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Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's.
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Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's.
29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM
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Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's.
30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM
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Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell.
30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM
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The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction.
30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM
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Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late.
13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM
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The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM*
02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM
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Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore
02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM
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Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM*
02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM
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Beginning of the end
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Re: Beginning of the end
05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM
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Other things. *NM*
02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM
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The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency.
02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM
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The least important of your points...
04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM
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Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers.
13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM
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Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp
04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM
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The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM
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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM
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Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall.
05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM
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Plotting and themes.
04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM
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family and bigotry
04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM
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Anything else?
04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM
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portaits
04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM
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Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks.
13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM
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Characters - so many to deal with.
06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM
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Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio.
06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM
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Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio.
06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM
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Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio.
06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM
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Plot! Theme and Action!
06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM
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The trap is set
06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM
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Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell.
13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM
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Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children.
08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM
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Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin
08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM
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Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin
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10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM
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Action. And more action.
08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM
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I'm wondering what would have happened...
09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM
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Re: I'm wondering what would have happened...
09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM
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Re: I'm wondering what would have happened...
10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM
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Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn)
11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM
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Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn)
12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM
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Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence?
13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM
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How are our characters left?
11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM
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Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody
11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM
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Any other thoughts?
11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM
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General comments.
13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM
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Suggestions for the re-read.
13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM
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Your links don't work
14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM
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Fixed. *NM*
14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM
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And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM*
14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM
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Do we need to have another break?
27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM
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But now I want to keep reading them. </whine>
29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM
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Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start.
03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM
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Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start.
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