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Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM
Hermione: her different reactions to swimming brains and the Veil of death.

It is interesting how all of them show interest and allow themselves to be slowed down by at least one of the various strange objects they encounter... and tempting to read more into it.


Yes.

Harry: his reaction to the Veil is quite interesting. He does not appear to fear it, but finds it beautiful, even feels a strong urge to walk through it. I suppose it is relevant in view of book 7 and his actions there. Perhaps it also illuminates his obsession with risking his life to save others. If he has an attraction to death. Although the fact that Ginny and Neville are apparently also attracted to it… I don't know what to make of that. I wonder how Voldemort reacts when faced with the Veil.

I think it's clear the criterium for hearing the voices is the same as for seeing Thestrals, but what makes Ginny so interested in it when Ron and Hermione aren't... I'm not sure.


Quite. I cannot think of anything. Could it be the fact that she nearly died in book 2?

If we're going to discuss his view on death, we should also mention two chapters later, when he is mentioned as being dying or sure he was dead twice, and thinks explicitly that death would not be so bad (admittedly, compared to excruciating pain, so he's not exactly thinking clearly).


Yes.

His reaction when Sirius is not there, and all through the fight with the Death Eaters is that if someone dies it will be his fault for having been tricked by Voldemort. And then Sirius dies. Sirius. It is too horrible.

But in a way less horrible than if someone of the Two Trios had died. They are his responsibility, he led them there, and they are only children besides. Sirius is an adult who came there of his own volition and went down fighting as he'd have wanted to.


Hmm. Yes.

Sirius dying is dark enough, but the books would have gone to an even darker place if, say, Neville had died here. Not to mention Ron or Hermione.


Yes. They still retain that part of the children's literature pattern. They cannot die. It would break the pattern.

Neville: he is also fascinated by the Veil. And Harry notices his hand shake, I get the impression that it is implied that Harry thinks it is out of fear, but I am fairly convinced it is because Bellatrix is that close and he wants her dead (or, perhaps, preferably mad).

I'm not sure. After the build-up, Neville's performance during the fight is far from stellar - he needs this experience to become what he becomes at the grand finale of the final book, but right now he's not exactly a big help.


I am not saying he is a hardened fighter at this point. But considering his violent tendencies when his parents are mocked, I feel fairly confident that his reaction to Bellatrix is to want to inflict pain. And I think that is such a defining part of Neville's make up that it overrides the danger of the situation. I may be wrong. Or, rather, it is all down to interpretations at this point.

I also like the moment when he says that his Gran will kill him for breaking his father's old wand; obviously she will be proud that her grandson is out fighting Death Eaters, like his father did.

Indeed she will - a bit too proud, perhaps.


Well, she has a lot to make up for.

Sirius: the speed with which he duels with the Death Eater. It shows how much more the trio and the second trio have to learn. And this is Sirius, who has not had his life to practice, having been locked up pretty much since he became an adult. It is a good thing Harry had a bargaining chip.

Yeah, agreed, another indication like Dolochov's non-verbal spells that the Two Trios do have a fair bit to learn still. Though as for the duels, you have to wonder why DEs bother with all the lesser spells - and even the tapdancing one, what was that about? - when they can just use the AK and simplify things dramatically. Lucius Malfoy and some others might not have the guts to do that, agreed, but Bellatrix and Dolochov definitely do. Is it just a matter of style?


I think the tapdancing is because Harry has told them he will break the prophecy if they hurt any of his friends.

And then Sirius dies. It is so wrong. He was only just about to be cleared, just about to be able to be happy. There is some mercy in his dying in a fight, not being strangled in his sleep my Kreecher, but it is not really much of a consolation.

Yeah, the only consolation is that having one of the rescuers die - even Sirius - isn't as bad as one of the children.


It is not much better. Sirius at this point is about en par with the trios as regards blame attaching to Harry, impact on Harry and impact on the reader (at least me).

Dumbledore: His entry is again terribly powerful. He is angry, and you know everything is going to be all right. And then Sirius dies. I'm sorry. I have to keep coming back to that. It is so central to everything. Dumbledore's power to make everything all right is gone in a flash.

And then he fails to protect Harry, too, who only forces Voldemort out through his emotions. Maybe Dumbledore could've saved the situation again otherwise, but he is unable to prevent it. This is definitely the point where the limits of Dumbledore's power become clear, and where Harry really seriously stakes out his claim to the leadership of the good side. In hindsight, anyway.


I don't know about the Harry as leader theory. Do we ever see that?

Yes, he proceeds to effortlessly duel with Voldemort while lecturing him on key philosophical points, and that is all very cool, and he is marvellous. But the reassurance of his presence is never there again in the same way. For me, at any rate.

No, agreed, it cannot be the same anymore.
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According to the HP Wiki at Wikia, there should be a more explicit mention of it in book seven. *NM* Legolas - 19/09/2010 07:34:10 PM 1383 Views
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Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 07:21:38 PM 2690 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. StormCrow - 17/09/2010 08:29:06 PM 2652 Views
Re: His shifts between the two are handled nicely. Camilla - 17/09/2010 08:30:12 PM 2245 Views
It's cheesy. *NM* Legolas - 17/09/2010 08:41:32 PM 1385 Views
Yeah, kind of cheesy, but I still enjoyed it. Should we table this for the DH reread? *NM* StormCrow - 20/09/2010 01:21:33 AM 1337 Views
Yeah, let's. *NM* Legolas - 20/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1435 Views
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Characters: Luna, Umbridge and the Sorting Hat *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:03:30 AM 1421 Views
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I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:58:01 PM 2390 Views
Re: I think McGonagall kind of fails there. Camilla - 20/09/2010 05:05:27 PM 2505 Views
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Re: Maybe she doesn't realize all that, but really, how much effort does it take to be clear? Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:18:35 PM 2576 Views
Oh, I think it is. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:30:33 PM 2425 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:37:09 PM 2462 Views
My head is spinning a bit from this debate. aria - 21/09/2010 03:01:16 PM 2479 Views
Re: Oh, I think it is. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 02:59:40 AM 2455 Views
Prefect picking. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2465 Views
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Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 22/09/2010 03:16:41 AM 2457 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:03:52 AM 2584 Views
Re: Weasley goodness. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:32:45 AM 2627 Views
Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* Rebekah - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1396 Views
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Oh, there's more than that. Legolas - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2449 Views
Re: Oh, there's more than that. Camilla - 20/09/2010 04:47:53 PM 2534 Views
I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 2442 Views
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Hmm. Legolas - 20/09/2010 05:38:28 PM 2488 Views
Re: Hmm. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:10:03 PM 2519 Views
Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Legolas - 20/09/2010 06:21:30 PM 2518 Views
Re: Because it rather seems like it'd come up if he had. Camilla - 20/09/2010 06:34:32 PM 2507 Views
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Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2505 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1509 Views
Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 2438 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Legolas - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2571 Views
Re: Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". Camilla - 22/09/2010 09:59:39 AM 2571 Views
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True Camilla - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2488 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* Elaine - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1429 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* Legolas - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1345 Views
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Yes Camilla - 22/09/2010 08:55:50 AM 2446 Views
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Re: Some interesting developments, I thought. Edited Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:35:20 PM 2434 Views
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Plot progression, and continuing themes. Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:34 PM 2573 Views
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Re: Action and reaction Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:43:32 PM 2462 Views
Umbridge StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:54:48 AM 2559 Views
Re: Umbridge Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:38:47 AM 2399 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Legolas - 22/09/2010 02:03:27 PM 2518 Views
Re: Plot progression, and continuing themes. Camilla - 22/09/2010 02:25:48 PM 2628 Views
Any other comments? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:44:54 PM 2400 Views
Erm. Cockatiel of Doom - 23/09/2010 04:48:03 AM 2397 Views
Re: Erm. Camilla - 23/09/2010 08:40:19 AM 2484 Views
Not really a distance thing, but... StormCrow - 23/09/2010 02:58:55 PM 2413 Views
The title of chapter 13. Legolas - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2596 Views
Good point. Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:00:56 PM 2480 Views
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Le plot. Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 2427 Views
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Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2615 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2513 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 2248 Views
Kittens! Camilla - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 2375 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2543 Views
Re: Kittens! Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2502 Views
Re: Kittens! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2599 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 2388 Views
Les Characters Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 2413 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2493 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Legolas - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2455 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 2352 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2497 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2540 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2472 Views
Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 2415 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2500 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! StormCrow - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 2441 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! Camilla - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 2275 Views
Mirroring Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 2425 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2482 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 2340 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 2336 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Legolas - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 2337 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 2410 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 2309 Views
Re: Gnomes Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 2440 Views
Re: Gnomes Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2474 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2540 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1381 Views
High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2496 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 2439 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2504 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 2416 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 2367 Views
Re: High emotions. Legolas - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 2400 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 2423 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 2225 Views
Re: High emotions. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 2451 Views
Re: High emotions. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 2412 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1333 Views
A bit of a respite on that score Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 2434 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1370 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2688 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2515 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity Camilla - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2573 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2533 Views
Other things of note. *NM* Rebekah - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1401 Views
A Question Camilla - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2463 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Legolas - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2448 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Camilla - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 2298 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2453 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. Seriana Sedai - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2452 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2527 Views
Hermione is apparently smarter than J.K. Rowling. Or maybe just Harry. Hard to tell. Cockatiel of Doom - 30/09/2010 03:47:22 AM 2441 Views
The fact that she has Hermione use the right term points to a subtle distinction. Camilla - 30/09/2010 03:06:07 PM 2498 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 2370 Views
The characters: development, actions, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:09 AM 1449 Views
Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:54:05 PM 2546 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Cockatiel of Doom - 03/10/2010 02:19:37 AM 2509 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 03/10/2010 10:05:48 AM 2750 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 04/10/2010 09:10:47 PM 2490 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 04/10/2010 09:18:42 PM 2422 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore StormCrow - 05/10/2010 01:06:54 AM 2477 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:02:36 AM 2618 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:39:30 PM 2536 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:50:27 PM 2350 Views
Re: Fudge, Hermione, Neville, Cho, Harry, Umbridge, the teachers, Snape, Dumbledore Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:13:36 PM 2447 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1400 Views
Beginning of the end Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2573 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Legolas - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 2474 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Camilla - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2503 Views
Re: Beginning of the end Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 2437 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 1323 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. Camilla - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2538 Views
The least important of your points... StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2616 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Camilla - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 2403 Views
Re: The least important of your points... Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2572 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2457 Views
Characters: James, Sirius, Lily, Snape, Umbridge, Fred, George, Hagrid, Grawp Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:31:44 PM 2534 Views
The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:40:26 PM 2441 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 05:16:45 AM 2599 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:19:28 AM 2630 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 03:56:50 PM 2747 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:09:16 PM 2500 Views
Re: The twins, the teachers, Cho, Snape, James Sirius, Wormtail, Lupin, Lily, Harry and McGonagall. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:27:30 PM 2383 Views
Plotting and themes. Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2454 Views
family and bigotry Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2473 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2465 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. Camilla - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 2376 Views
Re: family and bigotry Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2503 Views
Re: family and bigotry Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 2406 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2483 Views
portaits Camilla - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 2274 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Legolas - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2522 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. Camilla - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2555 Views
That would be awesome. Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2451 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2476 Views
Characters - so many to deal with. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:13:36 PM 2400 Views
Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:34:55 PM 2531 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:30:18 PM 2505 Views
Re: Ron, Neville, Harry, Hermione, McGonagall, Professor Tofty, Snape, Umbridge and the second trio. Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:46:38 PM 2517 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 2411 Views
The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 2400 Views
Re: The trap is set Legolas - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 2388 Views
Re: The trap is set Camilla - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2494 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. Rebekah - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2456 Views
exams Camilla - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 2424 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2625 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2529 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 2458 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2648 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 2333 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 2296 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Camilla - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2548 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2604 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2550 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2488 Views
Action. And more action. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2462 Views
The tragedy Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2550 Views
Re: The tragedy Legolas - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 2343 Views
Re: The tragedy Camilla - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2560 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... Legolas - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 2259 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Camilla - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 2388 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2609 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Seriana Sedai - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2471 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 2399 Views
Other things. Rebekah - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 2409 Views
Re: Other things. Camilla - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2466 Views
Well. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 2427 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2540 Views
How are our characters left? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2501 Views
Phineas, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Fudge, McGonagall, Harry, Ron and Moody Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:16 PM 2501 Views
Plot and theme: Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 2425 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2640 Views
Any other thoughts? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 2343 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. Camilla - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2630 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2645 Views
General comments. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2516 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. Darth_Katie - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2454 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. Camilla - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2583 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones Camilla - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2658 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? Rebekah - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2449 Views
Much improved Camilla - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 2401 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 2386 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? Cockatiel of Doom - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2598 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 2458 Views
Your links don't work Camilla - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 2400 Views
Fixed. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1477 Views
And fixed the links in the other ones, too - don't bother searching for new posts, there aren't any. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2010 06:35:37 PM 1347 Views
I just copied old ones. Rebekah - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2463 Views
Do we need to have another break? Rebekah - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2495 Views
Before the next book, you mean? Camilla - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 2358 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> Cockatiel of Doom - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 2360 Views
Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Rebekah - 03/10/2010 09:48:52 AM 2470 Views
Re: Will probably just have a little break - i.e. wait till the following Monday to start. Cockatiel of Doom - 06/10/2010 12:01:09 AM 2669 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. Rebekah - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2545 Views
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