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Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor Camilla Send a noteboard - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM
I guess I don't know enough about the War of Roses to see much parallels to it in the series, except in the vaguest of terms if you suppose that Daenerys is a would-be Henry Tudor aiming to reinvade Westeros to reclaim the crown taken from her ancestors. The historical parallels that jumped out at me much more are with Ancient Rome and the early Islamic empires, respectively (the former is a detail, the latter a major plot point in a future book). Oh, and obviously the one with Hundred Years War France. And I suppose you could argue the Dothraki are modeled on the Mongols to a considerable extent, more than any other horse nation... looking for historical parallels is fun.


Tudor's main importance was that he descended from both Lancaster and York, if I recall correctly. Daenerys' line is "pure" Targaryen. Jon Snow, however, does seem to bring together two opposites.
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Fascinating. - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2603 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2408 Views
Mainly the names. - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 2330 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2485 Views
Not really. - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2591 Views
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On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2438 Views
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Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2465 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 2314 Views
like all the time. - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2430 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2372 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2367 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2583 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2613 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 2310 Views
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I think you misread one part - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2518 Views
Currently kicking myself - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2646 Views
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what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 2274 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2424 Views
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Se noteboard. *NM* - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 1219 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 1174 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2437 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2385 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 2230 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2363 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 2219 Views
You are missing the point. - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 2463 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2395 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2479 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2418 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 2276 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 2419 Views
That makes sense - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 2045 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1422 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1250 Views
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Nonsense. - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 1206 Views
Fixed it for you. - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1310 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1206 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1364 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1305 Views
Don't lock it! - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1266 Views
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I'd ask that you do lock it. - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1208 Views
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The interesting part is... - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 2204 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 2287 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2883 Views

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