Active Users:1212 Time:31/07/2026 02:46:55 AM
A perpetrator-less crime then. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM
Did Dany really have the capacity to refuse? To that end, I still would consider it rape.


It's not like Drogo has any way to be aware of such minute sensibilities, and she was not lying back and thinking of England - she actively encouraged his touch when she said yes. I haven't read that scene in years, but I recall her moving his hand to some dirty place to make her permission explicit.

And the whole issue of consent to refuse is an entirely different question in these societies. From a strictly technical PoV, Rhaegar did, in fact, rape Lyanna, because she was not in a position to lawfully or ethically give consent.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
Reply to message
A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 20902 Views
Fascinating. - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2977 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2757 Views
Mainly the names. - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 2700 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2842 Views
Not really. - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2956 Views
Shocking - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2917 Views
On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2811 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 2778 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2839 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 2670 Views
like all the time. - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2774 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2699 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2722 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2923 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 3036 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 2675 Views
House Banners/Sigils - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM 2751 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin - 14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM 2599 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin - 14/08/2012 06:25:11 AM 2719 Views
I think you misread one part - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2867 Views
Currently kicking myself - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2982 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 2696 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 2607 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2812 Views
Trollolololololololllll *NM* - 16/08/2012 01:02:22 AM 1357 Views
Se noteboard. *NM* - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 1402 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 1367 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2778 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2814 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 2575 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2729 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 2587 Views
You are missing the point. - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 2833 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2793 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2871 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2784 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 2639 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 2769 Views
That makes sense - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 2396 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1646 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1420 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1491 Views
Nonsense. - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 1389 Views
Fixed it for you. - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1486 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1383 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1538 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1500 Views
Don't lock it! - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1454 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 1321 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1400 Views
Fair enough. *NM* - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 1301 Views
I may join you - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1478 Views
COME AT ME BRO *NM* - 21/08/2012 05:09:34 AM 1351 Views
The interesting part is... - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 2543 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 2641 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 3292 Views

Reply to Message