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Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor Camilla Send a noteboard - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM
I guess I don't know enough about the War of Roses to see much parallels to it in the series, except in the vaguest of terms if you suppose that Daenerys is a would-be Henry Tudor aiming to reinvade Westeros to reclaim the crown taken from her ancestors. The historical parallels that jumped out at me much more are with Ancient Rome and the early Islamic empires, respectively (the former is a detail, the latter a major plot point in a future book). Oh, and obviously the one with Hundred Years War France. And I suppose you could argue the Dothraki are modeled on the Mongols to a considerable extent, more than any other horse nation... looking for historical parallels is fun.


Tudor's main importance was that he descended from both Lancaster and York, if I recall correctly. Daenerys' line is "pure" Targaryen. Jon Snow, however, does seem to bring together two opposites.
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A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 8671 Views
Fascinating. - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2230 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2036 Views
Mainly the names. - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 1971 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2090 Views
Not really. - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2224 Views
Shocking - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2035 Views
On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2116 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 1964 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2100 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 1945 Views
like all the time. - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2046 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2014 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2003 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2102 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2211 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 1945 Views
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I think you misread one part - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2172 Views
Currently kicking myself - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2140 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 1977 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 1914 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2058 Views
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Se noteboard. *NM* - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 993 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 971 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2047 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2008 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 1870 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 1999 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 1859 Views
You are missing the point. - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 1975 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2039 Views
Re: You are missing the point. - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 1989 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2050 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 1906 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 1921 Views
That makes sense - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 1699 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1213 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1023 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1082 Views
Nonsense. - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 985 Views
Fixed it for you. - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1069 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 994 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1142 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1070 Views
Don't lock it! - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1056 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 932 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1005 Views
Fair enough. *NM* - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 918 Views
I may join you - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1076 Views
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The interesting part is... - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 1833 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 1944 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2500 Views

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