So we get a lot of kings, or similar, in fantasy literature. Some are bad guys to be defeated, others just guys who happen to sit on a really old seat and get a whole lot of problems for it.
Others are KINGS. They rule by virtue of who they are, and they do it bloody well. It is always worthwhile to see an impressive King. I was just wondering who you found the most impressive, and of course I did some thinking on the subject myself. At first, I was pretty well stuck on Aragorn/Elessar of LotR fame, but then I checked myself. There was someone I had forgotten and I kinda had to slap my head over it.
My vote is for Carrot Ironfoundersson.
It's not just because I love practically everything Discworld, and the Ankh-Morpork stories above the rest. Carrot can be funny just like all the other characters, and in most of the books where he figures at all, the main character is usually Sam Vimes. Carrot hasn't even claimed a throne.
Which is actually the first factor which, to me, put him in the company of Aragorn. Save the nation first, maybe rule it later. But Carrot radiates authority, and often times you get the very strong impression that he rules everyone around him despite a strong desire NOT to do so.
It's hard to put a finger on, but for all his talent in humor writing, I think Pratchett created the ultimate fantasy king.
Others are KINGS. They rule by virtue of who they are, and they do it bloody well. It is always worthwhile to see an impressive King. I was just wondering who you found the most impressive, and of course I did some thinking on the subject myself. At first, I was pretty well stuck on Aragorn/Elessar of LotR fame, but then I checked myself. There was someone I had forgotten and I kinda had to slap my head over it.
My vote is for Carrot Ironfoundersson.
It's not just because I love practically everything Discworld, and the Ankh-Morpork stories above the rest. Carrot can be funny just like all the other characters, and in most of the books where he figures at all, the main character is usually Sam Vimes. Carrot hasn't even claimed a throne.
Which is actually the first factor which, to me, put him in the company of Aragorn. Save the nation first, maybe rule it later. But Carrot radiates authority, and often times you get the very strong impression that he rules everyone around him despite a strong desire NOT to do so.
It's hard to put a finger on, but for all his talent in humor writing, I think Pratchett created the ultimate fantasy king.
The greatest King in Fantasy
- 09/04/2010 05:18:42 AM
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King Arthur. Hands down.
- 09/04/2010 06:40:15 AM
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I would argue with you.
- 09/04/2010 06:54:53 AM
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That's the point, though. Arthur's humanity is what makes him so admirable.
- 09/04/2010 06:59:07 AM
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I have to agree with Dannymac
- 09/04/2010 02:04:44 PM
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But he's not in a modern fantasy novel.
- 09/04/2010 07:37:14 PM
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- 09/04/2010 07:37:14 PM
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when I read the actual book...
- 10/04/2010 12:08:21 AM
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"The actual character"? Which of the countless different ones? *NM*
- 10/04/2010 12:21:00 AM
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i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book.
- 10/04/2010 12:51:44 AM
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There isn't an "actual book." Le Morte d'Arthur is a relatively early compilation of legends. *NM*
- 10/04/2010 03:09:40 AM
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I'm going with the most likely historical version of King Arthur
- 09/04/2010 06:45:26 PM
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My money is still on Aragorn
- 09/04/2010 12:47:43 PM
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Aragorn is so awesome...
- 09/04/2010 02:05:42 PM
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Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though.
- 09/04/2010 02:18:30 PM
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Re: Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though.
- 09/04/2010 02:49:45 PM
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Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien.
- 09/04/2010 03:32:00 PM
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Re: Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien.
- 09/04/2010 03:45:37 PM
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I can't agree about the goddesses.
- 09/04/2010 04:34:15 PM
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Re: I can't agree about the goddesses.
- 09/04/2010 04:55:34 PM
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If Tacitus and Graves were accurate
- 09/04/2010 05:09:20 PM
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Re: If Tacitus and Graves were accurate
- 09/04/2010 05:26:43 PM
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I rather liked her depiction in Rome.
- 09/04/2010 05:34:37 PM
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Re: I can't agree about the goddesses.
- 09/04/2010 05:02:50 PM
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Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but...
- 09/04/2010 06:55:23 PM
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Re: Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but...
- 09/04/2010 07:04:37 PM
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thought of a better example: Arien the Maia of the Sun was single and far more powerful than Tilion
- 09/04/2010 09:17:34 PM
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Re: I can't agree about the goddesses.
- 09/04/2010 05:06:49 PM
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That was my first assumption too, but evidently not. *NM*
- 09/04/2010 05:22:39 PM
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I changed it to Livia Augusta
Sheesh, you people-- a guy mistypes one time!! *NM*
- 09/04/2010 05:29:03 PM
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Sheesh, you people-- a guy mistypes one time!! *NM*
- 09/04/2010 05:29:03 PM
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I call bullshit
- 09/04/2010 08:09:49 PM
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Re: I call bullshit
- 09/04/2010 08:31:16 PM
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Re: I call bullshit
- 10/04/2010 08:04:15 AM
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I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist.
- 10/04/2010 05:12:07 PM
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He's good, but then he just doesn't have to face so many things.
- 09/04/2010 02:22:04 PM
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Doesn't have to face many things?
- 09/04/2010 07:59:27 PM
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As in, there are many important aspects of being king he doesn't have to face.
- 09/04/2010 08:07:16 PM
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well technically speaking he WAS the king when he did all those things.
- 10/04/2010 12:15:26 AM
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Re: Doesn't have to face many things?
- 09/04/2010 08:38:51 PM
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Re: Doesn't have to face many things?
- 10/04/2010 08:24:33 AM
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I'm sure there are many, but one coming to mind is Prince Josua from Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
- 09/04/2010 02:23:57 PM
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I'm going to go with a tie...
- 09/04/2010 04:22:42 PM
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Rohan was a whiny hypocritical bitch who failed at the only real test of rulership he ever faced.
- 10/04/2010 02:51:34 AM
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Artur Hawkwing
- 10/04/2010 03:34:02 AM
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Alexander the Great?
*NM*
- 10/04/2010 05:08:25 AM
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*NM*
- 10/04/2010 05:08:25 AM
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AH conquered more, did better, & was not a huge d-bag. Alex would have commissioned that big statue *NM*
- 12/04/2010 03:00:39 PM
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And both managed to have their so-called "empires" crumble within a year of their death. *NM*
- 12/04/2010 06:12:20 PM
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Which just reinforces how awesome AH was - no one else could do what he did
- 13/04/2010 11:50:54 AM
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???
- 10/04/2010 10:30:13 AM
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Ta'veren is not a power, it is an accomodation with what the Pattern demands of certain people
- 12/04/2010 02:56:57 PM
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Simba *NM*
- 10/04/2010 08:40:38 AM
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What's the name of the Lemur-thing that's the King in "the penguins of madagascar"? He gets my vote! *NM*
- 14/04/2010 04:46:42 AM
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