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Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla Send a noteboard - 12/04/2010 10:55:12 AM
I thought Aragorn's healing hands came from the Elessar stone, which was given to him from Celebrian by agency of Arwen? Therefore, Arwen could have easily had the healing hands =P

What do you base that on?



In most versions, the Elessar was made by Celebrimbor and it was his greatest work aside from the 3 rings. It is supposed to capture the beauty of light filtering through leaves. Galadriel wore it for quite a while before giving it to her daughter, and she did some miraculous things with it if I remember correctly. Regardless, here is some information on the stone:

It was said that it also held unusual properties. Looking through it, the viewer could see an injured or aged thing or person as in the original state of beauty and youth. Also, the wearer's hands could bring healing from injury. In a later version, this power extends over the land as well. In yet other versions, this power over the land lies instead in the Silmaril or in the three Elven Rings. This idea of healing may have been involved when it was said that the hands of the king would be the hands of a healer - the power may have been augmented by or derived from the Elessar.



Hmmm. I had forgotten about that.
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The greatest King in Fantasy Dannymac - 09/04/2010 05:18:42 AM 1748 Views
King Arthur. Hands down. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:40:15 AM 1153 Views
I would argue with you. Dannymac - 09/04/2010 06:54:53 AM 1098 Views
That's the point, though. Arthur's humanity is what makes him so admirable. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 06:59:07 AM 1148 Views
I have to agree with Dannymac LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:04:44 PM 1137 Views
But he's not in a modern fantasy novel. Ghavrel - 09/04/2010 07:37:14 PM 1160 Views
when I read the actual book... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:08:21 AM 1152 Views
"The actual character"? Which of the countless different ones? *NM* Legolas - 10/04/2010 12:21:00 AM 519 Views
i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:51:44 AM 1208 Views
There isn't an "actual book." Le Morte d'Arthur is a relatively early compilation of legends. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 03:09:40 AM 559 Views
Re: i mean the actual character of Arthur in the actual book. Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:17:12 AM 1157 Views
I'm going with the most likely historical version of King Arthur RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:45:26 PM 1201 Views
My money is still on Aragorn Camilla - 09/04/2010 12:47:43 PM 1258 Views
Aragorn is so awesome... LadyLorraine - 09/04/2010 02:05:42 PM 1104 Views
Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:18:30 PM 1078 Views
Re: Arwen's character is just never fleshed out, though. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 02:49:45 PM 1149 Views
Hm nossy - 09/04/2010 03:23:53 PM 1192 Views
Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. Legolas - 09/04/2010 03:32:00 PM 1097 Views
Re: Mostly, yes, but there are a few exceptions - Galadriel, Eowyn, and above all Luthien. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 03:45:37 PM 1355 Views
I can't agree about the goddesses. Legolas - 09/04/2010 04:34:15 PM 1213 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 04:55:34 PM 1086 Views
If Tacitus and Graves were accurate imlad - 09/04/2010 05:09:20 PM 1149 Views
Re: If Tacitus and Graves were accurate lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:26:43 PM 1107 Views
I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:34:37 PM 1164 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:45:06 PM 1245 Views
Re: I rather liked her depiction in Rome. Camilla - 10/04/2010 11:14:26 AM 1258 Views
I don't know if I'd call it bad, per se. Legolas - 10/04/2010 11:37:55 AM 1331 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:02:50 PM 1139 Views
Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:31:42 PM 1100 Views
Re: Eh, the other Vala don't do much of anything either. lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:44:03 PM 1145 Views
Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 06:55:23 PM 1149 Views
Re: Nienna, the Valier of Mercy, was single and a wanderer. She's not the most powerful, but... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 07:04:37 PM 1156 Views
thought of a better example: Arien the Maia of the Sun was single and far more powerful than Tilion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 09:17:34 PM 1395 Views
Re: I can't agree about the goddesses. imlad - 09/04/2010 05:06:49 PM 1258 Views
That was my first assumption too, but evidently not. *NM* Legolas - 09/04/2010 05:22:39 PM 510 Views
I changed it to Livia Augusta Sheesh, you people-- a guy mistypes one time!! *NM* lyringlas - 09/04/2010 05:29:03 PM 554 Views
I call bullshit Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:09:49 PM 1093 Views
Re: I call bullshit lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:31:16 PM 1097 Views
Re: I call bullshit Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:04:15 AM 1182 Views
I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:12:07 PM 1182 Views
Re: I didn't realize it was fashionable to call Tolkien sexist. Camilla - 12/04/2010 11:00:23 AM 1055 Views
Exactly. Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 03:08:46 AM 1160 Views
Re: Exactly. Camilla - 13/04/2010 08:54:01 AM 1235 Views
I was going to say something similar. nossy - 09/04/2010 03:21:45 PM 1116 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... Camilla - 09/04/2010 08:00:25 PM 1115 Views
Re: Aragorn is so awesome... lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:37:12 PM 1110 Views
He's good, but then he just doesn't have to face so many things. Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:22:04 PM 1414 Views
Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 09/04/2010 07:59:27 PM 1160 Views
As in, there are many important aspects of being king he doesn't have to face. Legolas - 09/04/2010 08:07:16 PM 1130 Views
well technically speaking he WAS the king when he did all those things. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2010 12:15:26 AM 1134 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 09/04/2010 08:38:51 PM 991 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 10/04/2010 08:24:33 AM 1099 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? lyringlas - 10/04/2010 05:08:42 PM 1232 Views
Re: Doesn't have to face many things? Camilla - 12/04/2010 10:55:12 AM 1098 Views
He really wasn't a king in majority of the story though random thoughts - 12/04/2010 05:54:23 PM 1058 Views
I'm sure there are many, but one coming to mind is Prince Josua from Memory, Sorrow and Thorn Legolas - 09/04/2010 02:23:57 PM 1101 Views
Oh yeah I liked him a lot *NM* ironclad - 09/04/2010 04:09:59 PM 526 Views
Josua Lackhand is a great fantasy King! imlad - 09/04/2010 05:14:39 PM 1165 Views
Arutha was never King. *NM* Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 07:18:30 PM 505 Views
I'm going to go with a tie... Myrdhyn - 09/04/2010 04:22:42 PM 1114 Views
Rohan was a whiny hypocritical bitch who failed at the only real test of rulership he ever faced. Cannoli - 10/04/2010 02:51:34 AM 1159 Views
That actually slipped my mind. I can't believe that. Myrdhyn - 16/04/2010 04:44:46 PM 1205 Views
Joffrey and the Stag! *NM* Kotagg - 09/04/2010 09:53:56 PM 507 Views
ROFL *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/04/2010 11:39:36 PM 477 Views
Artur Hawkwing Cannoli - 10/04/2010 03:34:02 AM 1221 Views
Alexander the Great? *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2010 05:08:25 AM 536 Views
AH conquered more, did better, & was not a huge d-bag. Alex would have commissioned that big statue *NM* Cannoli - 12/04/2010 03:00:39 PM 504 Views
And both managed to have their so-called "empires" crumble within a year of their death. *NM* Ghavrel - 12/04/2010 06:12:20 PM 520 Views
Which just reinforces how awesome AH was - no one else could do what he did Cannoli - 13/04/2010 11:50:54 AM 1183 Views
??? Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:30:13 AM 1502 Views
Ta'veren is not a power, it is an accomodation with what the Pattern demands of certain people Cannoli - 12/04/2010 02:56:57 PM 1095 Views
Simba *NM* BlackAdder - 10/04/2010 08:40:38 AM 539 Views
Manwe Sidious - 10/04/2010 10:31:54 AM 1409 Views
Bah. He's hardly a character. *NM* AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:07:29 AM 631 Views
Arutha, the Prince of Krondor AgentOrange - 12/04/2010 01:06:14 AM 1167 Views
Westley Comet Sedai - 13/04/2010 02:59:36 AM 1090 Views
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I'll agree with that! *NM* imlad - 13/04/2010 11:33:10 AM 508 Views
What's the name of the Lemur-thing that's the King in "the penguins of madagascar"? He gets my vote! *NM* Mjolner - 14/04/2010 04:46:42 AM 547 Views
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