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Gah! You did that on purpose! Vodalus Send a noteboard - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM
Why? Unlike most people opposed to it, he's actually given thought out and reasoned arguments for why he thinks the way he does. Even if you think he's wrong, aren't his points worth adressing instead of being dismissed out of hand? He always extends his opponants the same courtesy.


You know it's "-ent".
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. Dannymac - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1649 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. Helene - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1048 Views
One small problem... Phelix - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1074 Views
Re tax. Rebekah - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1116 Views
That seems sensible to me. SilverWarder - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 978 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." Dannymac - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1126 Views
Nice. *NM* Camilla - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 622 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. Cannoli - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1298 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! Dannymac - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1102 Views
Who else should make those decisions? Cannoli - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1051 Views
I'd totally... Ectheledhel - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 999 Views
I'd totally... ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1153 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* Ectheledhel - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 512 Views
Indeed ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1084 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. everynametaken - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1089 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged Cannoli - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 994 Views
Um, ok. *NM* everynametaken - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 514 Views
*Shakes Head* Dannymac - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 960 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 548 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. Great Lord of Chaos - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1057 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1022 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! Vodalus - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 972 Views
whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 469 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* Cannoli - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1007 Views
I still do not see how you think marriage is a "pointless" institution LadyLorraine - 08/08/2010 08:05:45 PM 1106 Views
No, I was referring to same-sex marriage. Real marriage hardly counts as a novelty. *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 02:28:43 PM 456 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. Dannymac - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 952 Views
You cannot be that stupid. Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1228 Views
There's a lot of ridiculous arguments here, but I'll focus on just one of them... Legolas - 11/08/2010 03:38:05 PM 1119 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1336 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment random thoughts - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 941 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 979 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* Ectheledhel - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 519 Views
Did I say there was anything? Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1097 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. Camilla - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1026 Views
Is that assumption valid? Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 966 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? Camilla - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 957 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? Isaac - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1070 Views
Not really snoopcester - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 927 Views
Re: Not really Isaac - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1061 Views
Re: Not really snoopcester - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 927 Views
Re: Not really Isaac - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1090 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1093 Views
... Camilla - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 983 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too snoopcester - 09/08/2010 11:25:39 AM 1001 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:51:50 AM 950 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too snoopcester - 09/08/2010 01:18:35 PM 1045 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 09/08/2010 02:54:19 PM 1066 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage LadyLorraine - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1109 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage Isaac - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 917 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. Dannymac - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1045 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. Isaac - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 921 Views
Great post Danny SilverWarder - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 803 Views
It should be noted again... Jeordam - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1092 Views
and how is it not a right? LadyLorraine - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 967 Views
My definition of rights... Jeordam - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1089 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 849 Views
+1 Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1123 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example Isaac - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 948 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1083 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1260 Views
No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Isaac - 10/08/2010 05:25:57 AM 945 Views
Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 03:04:39 PM 1267 Views
That's really a ridiculous stance, you do realize. Legolas - 10/08/2010 03:23:02 PM 900 Views
The point is that marriage IS a right, one which cannot be denied based upon sexual orientation *NM* Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:04:16 PM 728 Views
Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Isaac - 10/08/2010 03:46:56 PM 1136 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 952 Views
It also doesn't say they can Isaac - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 955 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. Legolas - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 958 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so Isaac - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 964 Views
I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point. LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 06:09:32 PM 936 Views
Re: I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point. Isaac - 10/08/2010 06:33:56 PM 870 Views
It's mentioned as a right in some SC decision quoted in that Walker opinion. *NM* Legolas - 10/08/2010 06:51:13 PM 468 Views
To clarify for you SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 899 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1324 Views
I'm not sure that I would call the Security Council the 'Enforcement Body' SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 08:43:02 PM 911 Views
The fact that it is capable of authorizing the use of military force makes it an enforcement body Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 10:33:59 PM 1185 Views
Disagree - but it's most a matter of definition there SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 04:31:53 PM 1092 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... Jeordam - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 898 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 495 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 500 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination SilverWarder - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1137 Views
Why don't YOU back up your assertion that the right to marry exists? *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:16:02 PM 505 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1033 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... Vodalus - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1115 Views
I agree LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 822 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1188 Views
Note it all you want... Dannymac - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 820 Views
No, they seek to expand the terms of the partnership. Homosexuals can & do get married normally *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:14:25 PM 525 Views
The best one yet. Camilla - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1071 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 942 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane Camilla - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1045 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 938 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane Camilla - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1071 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1063 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel Camilla - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1010 Views
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