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Did I say there was anything? Isaac Send a noteboard - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM
The question is a mental exercise, justify gay marriage without using an argument that could just as easily apply to polygamy or incest, or alternatively, justify marriage between a man and a women where that particular union can't reasonably expect to produce offspring in a fashion that wouldn't equally apply to gays or incestuous unions, hence the reference to procreation. The primary point being of course that most of the arguments for or against gay marriage can apply to deny other standard unions or permit ones not currently allowed. Hence the question "can anyone justify gay marriage without justifying polygamy or incest and without mentioning procreation or two?"
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1691 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1073 Views
One small problem... - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1097 Views
Re tax. - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1140 Views
That seems sensible to me. - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 1022 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1164 Views
Nice. *NM* - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 637 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1340 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1137 Views
Who else should make those decisions? - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1095 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 1026 Views
I'd totally... - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1177 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 523 Views
Indeed - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1107 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1122 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 1018 Views
Um, ok. *NM* - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 523 Views
*Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 984 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 560 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1083 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 1039 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 997 Views
whoops *NM* - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 478 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 1030 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 977 Views
You cannot be that stupid. - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1255 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1362 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 965 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 1003 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 529 Views
Did I say there was anything? - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1120 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 1065 Views
Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 991 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 978 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1088 Views
Not really - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 955 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 950 Views
Re: Not really - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1129 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1118 Views
... - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 1024 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1133 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 943 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1065 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 942 Views
Great post Danny - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 825 Views
It should be noted again... - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1110 Views
and how is it not a right? - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 991 Views
My definition of rights... - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1110 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 874 Views
+1 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1160 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 964 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1108 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1290 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 985 Views
It also doesn't say they can - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 974 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 990 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 991 Views
To clarify for you - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 961 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1353 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 913 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 506 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 511 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1156 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 1094 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1152 Views
I agree - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 845 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1222 Views
Note it all you want... - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 843 Views
The best one yet. - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1101 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 959 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1072 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 967 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1107 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1083 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 1034 Views

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