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Well, you'll note I didn't make that causal relation you attribute to me. Legolas Send a noteboard - 16/08/2010 09:55:39 PM
And yeah, Dachau was originally for political dissidents as opposed to Work Jews to Death, but I don't think it's safe to say Hitler started engaging in genocide because he declared war

All I said was without the war there wouldn't have been a Holocaust. By which I mean there wouldn't have been anything even remotely comparable to what we now know as the Holocaust. I did not mean, obviously, that he wouldn't have killed any Jews, since he'd killed a number in the thirties. But a number that really doesn't compare to what happened later on. Wikipedia has it that there were about 200k Jews left in Germany at the beginning of the war; that's a very far cry from 6 million, and with such drastically lower numbers, it's not at all certain they'd even have bothered coming up with an "Endlösung". See also my reply to DK (the first one).
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At what point does it become ok to take over a country? Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:25:09 PM 1286 Views
why would we want to make Mexico our problem? *NM* random thoughts - 16/08/2010 04:30:48 PM 352 Views
Yeah that's why i don't want us to take over. I think the US is already too big as is *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:37:41 PM 328 Views
One might argue it already is. The other way around too, though. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:44:19 PM 312 Views
Well, generally it's no longer seen as acceptable. Ghavrel - 16/08/2010 04:38:11 PM 923 Views
Revolución! *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 04:47:55 PM 329 Views
I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. Legolas - 16/08/2010 04:51:38 PM 854 Views
Re: I'm fairly sure that yes, the majority of them have national pride. snoopcester - 16/08/2010 05:11:49 PM 692 Views
Actually, make that number 120 to 150. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 05:14:15 PM 327 Views
We don't invade countries we can't locate on the map... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:01:43 PM 929 Views
So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:11:43 PM 645 Views
Re: So that means there are only five or so countries you can invade, one of them yourself? Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:30:56 PM 876 Views
Nah, they're willing to switch allegiances at the drop of a hat Brian - 16/08/2010 06:25:29 PM 724 Views
When it spills your pint and eyes up your woman? snoopcester - 16/08/2010 04:53:29 PM 797 Views
When they get on your nerves or have something you want, preferably both Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:04:10 PM 817 Views
I agree we should attack Canada instead random thoughts - 16/08/2010 05:19:48 PM 813 Views
Yeah, but they don't gouge us for the oil, cost the same as anyone else *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 05:49:38 PM 334 Views
I would legalize drugs ten times over before I would annex Mexico. Tom - 16/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 885 Views
"I would stop doing a bad thing 10 times over before I did a worse thing"? WTF? *NM* Cannoli - 16/08/2010 06:04:48 PM 414 Views
Read the original post. He proposes annexing Mexico due to the drug problem. Tom - 16/08/2010 06:28:54 PM 857 Views
He's just nitpicking on your phrasing in the subject line. I think. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 06:37:17 PM 320 Views
that sounds like a much better immigration solution idea than "let's build a GIGANTIC FENCE!!!" *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 06:33:46 PM 336 Views
Lol that rates right up there with the bridge to nowhere *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 06:49:19 PM 348 Views
Work Visas might help, but... Isaac - 16/08/2010 06:51:11 PM 1009 Views
Oh i know it's not a complete solution and i have no problem with a fence LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 07:43:26 PM 751 Views
Just so long as we're both on the 'multi-front solution' page Isaac - 16/08/2010 08:35:06 PM 660 Views
it's also worth noting that no one is proposing throwing out the Cubans LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 08:54:46 PM 810 Views
When the US says so. We are the bosses of the World, are we not? *NM* Francie - 16/08/2010 08:06:08 PM 334 Views
west point? *NM* jh - 16/08/2010 08:56:58 PM 302 Views
Well take over and intervene are two totally different things Napoleon62 - 16/08/2010 09:00:50 PM 1016 Views
never *NM* Yunalesca - 16/08/2010 09:05:03 PM 334 Views
Not even Hitler's Germany? (if he never went to war but just stayed put) Reply to Yuna *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:24:41 PM 422 Views
If he had never gone to war, that would also have meant no Holocaust... *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:28:16 PM 327 Views
Really? Why is that? I'm not too terribly familiar with Hitler's reasons for mass genocide *NM* Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:30:48 PM 334 Views
Er, not enough Jews to be a problem, to put it crudely. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:50:41 PM 897 Views
Dachau opened in '33, Nuremburg Laws were '35 Isaac - 16/08/2010 09:36:59 PM 744 Views
Ok that's what I was thinking Dark Knight - 16/08/2010 09:45:51 PM 780 Views
Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:52:37 PM 789 Views
Re: Uh, yeah, see, there's a difference between "blaming" and "exterminating". Camilla - 16/08/2010 09:54:29 PM 728 Views
I don't know if there's really anything to specifically compare it to... Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:00:59 PM 896 Views
Also, perhaps someone should just invoke the (variation of the) Godwin Law and stop this whole thing Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:02:23 PM 796 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 16/08/2010 10:04:39 PM 710 Views
Nah, more like, I know I shouldn't have done this, but I couldn't resist. *NM* Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:07:35 PM 347 Views
I second the motion to invoke Godwin's Law for closure... Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:11:22 PM 845 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/08/2010 09:46:55 PM 702 Views
Well, you'll note I didn't make that causal relation you attribute to me. Legolas - 16/08/2010 09:55:39 PM 836 Views
The Dachau follow up was bookkeeping Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:05:35 PM 779 Views
I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Legolas - 16/08/2010 10:09:16 PM 846 Views
Re: I'm confused, but I'll take that as something I don't have to argue. Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:19:19 PM 758 Views
The US already took half of Mexico, so why not the other half? Bramhodoulos - 16/08/2010 09:57:56 PM 830 Views
"Took" is an unfriendly word, we purchased it *NM* Isaac - 16/08/2010 10:21:58 PM 341 Views
yes after a messy political and physical "conflict" LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 10:53:22 PM 798 Views
There was also the Gasdsen Purchase Isaac - 17/08/2010 12:30:21 AM 745 Views
The Gadsden Purchase was a pittance and an afterthought, as I'm sure you're aware. Joel - 18/08/2010 12:36:24 PM 663 Views
It is fairly large, but yes Isaac - 18/08/2010 02:21:25 PM 741 Views
Well, yes, it WAS a purchase, but then, it would be. Joel - 18/08/2010 03:22:23 PM 1185 Views
and why did it belong to Mexico to begin with? *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:28:28 AM 365 Views
same way it seems to be the way most people who own the Americas came to own it. LadyLorraine - 17/08/2010 01:46:49 AM 619 Views
At least we took the time to conquer it random thoughts - 18/08/2010 05:20:57 PM 968 Views
well they were not using it *NM* random thoughts - 17/08/2010 01:27:47 AM 315 Views
Once you solved all your own problems, I'm sure. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/08/2010 10:58:28 PM 330 Views
my best friend is an illegal and is going back to mexico in a few months Delireus - 16/08/2010 11:28:11 PM 802 Views
every issue is simpler when you don't have faces to represent it for you. *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 11:29:38 PM 339 Views
We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 12:58:37 AM 645 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. Isaac - 17/08/2010 02:39:11 AM 714 Views
Re: We should seal our border and peform drone strikes on cartels. everynametaken - 17/08/2010 03:34:59 AM 880 Views
I think maybe we've had enough of nation building for a while *NM* damookster - 17/08/2010 02:45:22 AM 317 Views
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