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'Fraid not. Craig Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM
It's a shittily written article.

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Objects in space, which are more than 8,000 light years away, can be seen from earth.

This is under the category "Arguments to support evolution." What the bloody blue blazes does that have to do with anything?

Maybe this is a joke newspaper in the UK - I'm not familiar with it, I just recognize the name. But this is shoddy "journalism," about something that's already a hot-button topic.

Now if you really want me to "refute any of the claims made by creationist outside of [my] semantics issue," I could go to town. But really I thought the whole article was stupid, but didn't feel like spending too much time on it, so I made one pithy comment and moved on. ~shrug~
I am made of poison.
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I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM 1128 Views
Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM 662 Views
Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. - 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM 750 Views
That is one amazingly stupid article... - 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM 698 Views
ditto *NM* - 13/09/2009 08:11:45 PM 339 Views
Re: ditto - 13/09/2009 10:01:54 PM 790 Views
wow why a witty and well thought out rebuttal. - 14/09/2009 10:02:14 PM 673 Views
Ugh. Interesting subject, awful article. - 13/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 726 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 09:05:45 PM 677 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. - 13/09/2009 10:33:47 PM 603 Views
I'd agree with you, if... - 13/09/2009 10:36:07 PM 676 Views
*sigh* People bashing other people. - 13/09/2009 10:02:54 PM 740 Views
The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM* - 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM 352 Views
seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory - 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM 656 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM 732 Views
Re: definition of "theory" - 14/09/2009 08:56:48 AM 816 Views
I can't really tell - 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM 703 Views
Re: I think I was agreeing with you, yes *NM* - 15/09/2009 12:37:00 AM 328 Views
Oh, good. I'll let you live. *NM* - 15/09/2009 01:55:49 AM 380 Views
I think you are getting workedup over nothing - 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM 852 Views
That's... not exactly it. - 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM 614 Views
not that is exactly it - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM 865 Views
No, Craig is quite right. - 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM 661 Views
Heh. You were much more diplomatic about it than I was. *NM* - 14/09/2009 11:24:41 PM 379 Views
No you just happen to wrong with him - 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM 669 Views
Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM 858 Views
Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... - 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM 822 Views
To butt in for a second... - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM 674 Views
'Fraid not. - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM 670 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. - 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM 662 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. - 15/09/2009 01:22:59 AM 782 Views
Ithat was meant to be an eidt. oh well - 15/09/2009 01:23:36 AM 734 Views
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completely aside from this argument you guys have here... - 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM 709 Views
Interrupter! - 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM 649 Views
Re: Interrupter! - 15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM 752 Views
One brain C4, coming up... - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM 706 Views
Nicely put - 15/09/2009 03:48:42 PM 633 Views
Yes, I know. - 15/09/2009 04:55:22 PM 772 Views
PFt - 15/09/2009 04:56:19 PM 645 Views
Are you telling me I am getting predictable? - 15/09/2009 04:58:59 PM 738 Views
The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument - 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM 727 Views
Exactly. So it was in the wrong column. - 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM 685 Views
what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie - 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM 746 Views
That, I can agree with. *NM* - 15/09/2009 08:22:44 PM 349 Views
Um. - 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM 802 Views
LOL - 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM 738 Views
Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly. - 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM 626 Views
Heh. - 15/09/2009 09:54:00 PM 747 Views
Well, I can pretend if you want me to - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM 1188 Views
I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM 675 Views
Re: I happen to find it all extremely interesting - 15/09/2009 10:36:14 PM 696 Views
There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM 818 Views
Having just been to the Creationist Museum last Monday - 16/09/2009 12:00:12 AM 955 Views
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! - 16/09/2009 06:03:20 AM 651 Views

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