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To butt in for a second... Craig Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM
And as for the 8000 lightyears argument, I have to disagree with Craig, I do think astronomy is relevant in the discussion. But the way that argument is presented is idiotic. If creationists actually believed that there were objects 8000 lightyears away whose light is reaching the earth only now, they wouldn't be creationists to begin with.

I don't actually disagree that the point has some relevance in the context of the discussion. I was merely pointing out that, since the author didn't actually give any context whilst adding that as an "argument to support evolution," it was a worthless addition. Anyway it's not so much an "argument to support evolution" as it is an "argument to dispute creationism." Just another nitpick at the shitty writing.
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I can't even believe this. Entophile - 13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM 1136 Views
Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. Artsapat - 13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM 671 Views
Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place. Entophile - 13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM 760 Views
That is one amazingly stupid article... Legolas - 13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM 706 Views
ditto *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/09/2009 08:11:45 PM 344 Views
Re: ditto Cal Trask - 13/09/2009 10:01:54 PM 799 Views
wow why a witty and well thought out rebuttal. random thoughts - 14/09/2009 10:02:14 PM 684 Views
Ugh. Interesting subject, awful article. nossy - 13/09/2009 08:27:15 PM 733 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. Geniac - 13/09/2009 09:05:45 PM 687 Views
Re: I can't even believe this. Entophile - 13/09/2009 10:33:47 PM 612 Views
I'd agree with you, if... Wibble - 13/09/2009 10:36:07 PM 684 Views
*sigh* People bashing other people. Great Lord of Chaos - 13/09/2009 10:02:54 PM 748 Views
The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM* Craig - 14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM 356 Views
seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM 665 Views
Re: definition of "theory" Geniac - 14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM 740 Views
Re: definition of "theory" Entophile - 14/09/2009 08:56:48 AM 827 Views
I can't really tell Craig - 14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM 712 Views
Re: I think I was agreeing with you, yes *NM* Geniac - 15/09/2009 12:37:00 AM 333 Views
Oh, good. I'll let you live. *NM* Craig - 15/09/2009 01:55:49 AM 383 Views
I think you are getting workedup over nothing random thoughts - 14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM 860 Views
That's... not exactly it. Craig - 14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM 621 Views
not that is exactly it random thoughts - 14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM 874 Views
No, Craig is quite right. Legolas - 14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM 671 Views
Heh. You were much more diplomatic about it than I was. *NM* Craig - 14/09/2009 11:24:41 PM 382 Views
No you just happen to wrong with him random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM 681 Views
Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... Legolas - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM 864 Views
Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press... random thoughts - 15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM 830 Views
To butt in for a second... Craig - 15/09/2009 07:38:05 PM 687 Views
'Fraid not. Craig - 14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM 681 Views
It's not, it's supposed to be relatively decent - mainstream conservative newspaper. *NM* Legolas - 14/09/2009 11:28:44 PM 317 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM 669 Views
Re: 'Fraid not. random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:22:59 AM 793 Views
Ithat was meant to be an eidt. oh well random thoughts - 15/09/2009 01:23:36 AM 742 Views
Craig - 15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM 754 Views
completely aside from this argument you guys have here... nossy - 15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM 720 Views
Interrupter! Craig - 15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM 657 Views
Re: Interrupter! nossy - 15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM 761 Views
One brain C4, coming up... jh - 15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM 715 Views
Nicely put Floffe - 15/09/2009 03:48:42 PM 641 Views
Yes, I know. jh - 15/09/2009 04:55:22 PM 779 Views
PFt nossy - 15/09/2009 04:56:19 PM 653 Views
Are you telling me I am getting predictable? jh - 15/09/2009 04:58:59 PM 748 Views
The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument random thoughts - 15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM 735 Views
Exactly. So it was in the wrong column. Craig - 15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM 693 Views
what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie random thoughts - 15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM 756 Views
That, I can agree with. *NM* Craig - 15/09/2009 08:22:44 PM 352 Views
Um. Rebekah - 14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM 810 Views
LOL Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM 745 Views
Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly. Legolas - 15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM 646 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 15/09/2009 09:54:00 PM 754 Views
Well, I can pretend if you want me to Isaac - 15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM 1194 Views
I happen to find it all extremely interesting nossy - 15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM 684 Views
Re: I happen to find it all extremely interesting Isaac - 15/09/2009 10:36:14 PM 731 Views
There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas random thoughts - 15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM 829 Views
Having just been to the Creationist Museum last Monday nossy - 16/09/2009 12:00:12 AM 964 Views
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Craig - 16/09/2009 06:03:20 AM 658 Views
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