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I'm trying to figure out just what your "gifts" are, because I don't see any. Tom Send a noteboard - 12/05/2011 07:30:39 PM
You were flat-out wrong with your citations and with what you said. Every single sentence of what you said was wrong from a factual standpoint.

Okay, so you're weak on the facts. You also show that you don't know what the work you claim to be building your life around ACTUALLY SAYS. I think that's terrible. That would be like if I didn't understand the basic principles of the legal system.

So, we now have (1) weak on facts, (2) unfamiliar with core Scripture. Let's go on. You also completely ignored what I said about a distinction between being a sinner and trying to deny the sin. That's not only a rupture of the letter of the law, that's a rupture of the entire spirit of Christianity and the entire teaching regarding redemption. "Go and sin no more". I repeat that. "Go and sin no more". How can you make an effort to sin no more if you're in a state of denial about the existence of the sin in the first place?

By your own standards of faith, you are risking being in a "gravely deficient state", as Benedict XVI would term it.

I personally have nothing against a Church that says, "We're going to accept homosexual priests because we view the Bible as a flawed work written by humans and influenced by prejudices and bigotry, and we choose not to follow the injunctions of Leviticus with respect to homosexuality, and to ignore Paul's indignation in Romans and Jude's indignation in his book." That would be honest.

Instead, I see hypocrisy.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Presbyterian Church (USA) passes Amendment 10-A. - 11/05/2011 05:39:29 PM 1474 Views
*NM* - 11/05/2011 06:10:26 PM 341 Views
I am happy to see this. *NM* - 11/05/2011 07:22:59 PM 380 Views
Homosexuals must die! - 11/05/2011 08:25:25 PM 1136 Views
I agree! This sort of behavior can NOT be excused!!! - 11/05/2011 10:38:16 PM 786 Views
Yay!!. - 11/05/2011 10:38:51 PM 1048 Views
Glad to hear it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 10:46:39 PM 430 Views
Well done. *NM* - 11/05/2011 11:07:22 PM 379 Views
What's the language? Did they at least TRY to give a doctrinal justification? - 12/05/2011 02:10:46 AM 1048 Views
Thank you for that rousing argument against married priests. - 12/05/2011 03:36:51 AM 955 Views
Why ARE you letting women into the priesthood? - 12/05/2011 04:16:50 AM 895 Views
Because Episcopalians don't listen to the Bible much. - 12/05/2011 05:47:03 AM 835 Views
That's just fine as far as I'm concerned - 12/05/2011 02:23:44 PM 860 Views
Yes, I suppose a church could go that route. - 14/05/2011 07:38:02 AM 806 Views
I'm not attempting to impose a dichotomy on the Bible. - 14/05/2011 03:25:30 PM 881 Views
I don't even know what following the Bible in its entirety means. - 14/05/2011 09:09:10 PM 1045 Views
As an exercise, I tried to think of how I would justify allowing homosexuals as clergy. - 14/05/2011 04:19:43 PM 872 Views
Wow. - 20/05/2011 10:15:21 AM 891 Views
Thanks (I'm actually OK with women priests though). - 12/05/2011 07:09:11 AM 933 Views
It's more a question of interpretational standards. - 12/05/2011 02:29:43 PM 821 Views
Agreed. - 14/05/2011 01:17:45 AM 895 Views
They did so, via negativa. - 12/05/2011 04:22:17 PM 988 Views
Your church has a constitution?! - 12/05/2011 03:36:41 AM 871 Views
My Church has a congress! *NM* - 12/05/2011 03:37:52 AM 419 Views
Haha no way! *NM* - 12/05/2011 03:46:32 AM 379 Views
We have a General Assembly and a Moderator. - 12/05/2011 04:18:34 PM 969 Views
I had no idea the US was based on that system. - 12/05/2011 06:22:58 PM 797 Views
It is pretty common practice - 12/05/2011 06:54:02 PM 838 Views
Oh I'm sure it is with newer churches. - 12/05/2011 10:49:11 PM 892 Views
I'm happy to hear this, personally. I also wonder how you reconcile this with the Bible. - 12/05/2011 04:11:31 AM 1047 Views
Every direct reference to homosexuality in the Bible is a reference to rape. - 12/05/2011 04:12:43 PM 877 Views
Every single word that you wrote in your response is complete bullshit. - 12/05/2011 05:50:07 PM 1005 Views
Knock off your eisegesis, try some exegesis - 12/05/2011 07:02:45 PM 919 Views
I'm trying to figure out just what your "gifts" are, because I don't see any. - 12/05/2011 07:30:39 PM 890 Views
Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? - 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM 901 Views
Re: Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? - 13/05/2011 07:02:35 PM 881 Views
I'm not playing. I'm pointing out some glaring errors on your part. - 13/05/2011 07:25:08 PM 796 Views
Danny will correct me if I'm wrong, but... - 13/05/2011 09:55:14 PM 998 Views
Danny persistently refuses to say that - 13/05/2011 10:13:55 PM 928 Views
And with respect to your textual point, once again you're wrong - 12/05/2011 07:44:10 PM 1020 Views
You're a fucking moron. *NM* - 15/05/2011 11:11:08 PM 403 Views
You make a very important but too often overlooked point. - 14/05/2011 01:54:40 AM 1005 Views
??? the bible was harsher on homosexulaity than on rape - 12/05/2011 06:56:43 PM 859 Views
Read Judges. - 12/05/2011 07:17:29 PM 868 Views
Another example... - 12/05/2011 09:19:52 AM 791 Views
That's what people said about churches opposing slavery. - 12/05/2011 04:06:26 PM 852 Views
I rest my case *NM* - 12/05/2011 04:48:32 PM 371 Views
That is a false dichotomy and we both know it. - 14/05/2011 02:07:19 AM 840 Views
If you claim to follow the entire Bible, then you are completely correct. - 12/05/2011 06:04:38 PM 787 Views
On the contrary, this move will take some butts out of the seats. - 12/05/2011 07:16:22 PM 839 Views
We both know that isn't the case - 12/05/2011 07:55:41 PM 931 Views
Whatever your issue is, get over it. - 13/05/2011 06:17:26 PM 805 Views
You'd be a lot more effective... - 13/05/2011 06:45:31 PM 924 Views
You haven't adequately expressed your theology - 13/05/2011 07:28:54 PM 905 Views
Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels - 12/05/2011 05:33:49 PM 907 Views
Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... - 13/05/2011 07:14:01 PM 815 Views
Re: Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... - 15/05/2011 03:18:23 PM 1222 Views

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