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I find this really weird, to be honest beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 13/05/2011 05:48:28 AM
The fact that this guy Athanasius basically came up with a list of everything acceptable, and that no one has disputed it by bringing back something he dismissed.

Mostly just because there are so, so many flavors and interpretations of Christianity. It seems almost unreal that no one back in the 4th century would have disputed his list by going "Hey! You forgot this one!"

Maybe because there were so many centuries between him and the Protestant Reformation?



Hm. Anyway, thanks for the responses, you two.
I amuse myself.
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Agreed. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:17:45 AM 884 Views
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Since never, which is why I referenced five other eras you completely ignored. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:11:30 AM 930 Views
They did so, via negativa. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:22:17 PM 977 Views
Sorry for the delay, particularly since it looks like I'll be spending a fair amount of time here. Joel - 14/05/2011 12:31:33 AM 792 Views
Your church has a constitution?! Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 03:36:41 AM 852 Views
My Church has a congress! *NM* Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 03:37:52 AM 413 Views
Haha no way! *NM* Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 03:46:32 AM 372 Views
Well, we have one group of laity and one of bishops, so it is only mildy utter chaos. *NM* Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 05:51:09 AM 407 Views
We have a General Assembly and a Moderator. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:18:34 PM 957 Views
I had no idea the US was based on that system. Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 06:22:58 PM 782 Views
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Oh I'm sure it is with newer churches. Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 10:49:11 PM 874 Views
I'm happy to hear this, personally. I also wonder how you reconcile this with the Bible. Tom - 12/05/2011 04:11:31 AM 1035 Views
Every direct reference to homosexuality in the Bible is a reference to rape. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:12:43 PM 866 Views
Every single word that you wrote in your response is complete bullshit. Tom - 12/05/2011 05:50:07 PM 996 Views
Knock off your eisegesis, try some exegesis Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:02:45 PM 908 Views
I'm trying to figure out just what your "gifts" are, because I don't see any. Tom - 12/05/2011 07:30:39 PM 880 Views
There are cases in which hypocrisy is far better than the alternatives. Legolas - 12/05/2011 10:04:32 PM 952 Views
Hypocrisy is better than, say, setting gays on fire, yes. Tom - 12/05/2011 10:10:40 PM 928 Views
My statement is that, from a pragmatic point of view, hypocrisy shouldn't be discouraged too much. Legolas - 13/05/2011 10:05:39 PM 949 Views
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Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? Dannymac - 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM 887 Views
Re: Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? Jacob - 13/05/2011 07:02:35 PM 869 Views
I'm not playing. I'm pointing out some glaring errors on your part. Tom - 13/05/2011 07:25:08 PM 785 Views
Danny will correct me if I'm wrong, but... Legolas - 13/05/2011 09:55:14 PM 986 Views
Danny persistently refuses to say that Tom - 13/05/2011 10:13:55 PM 917 Views
And with respect to your textual point, once again you're wrong Tom - 12/05/2011 07:44:10 PM 1007 Views
The Bible says what it says. The problem... people like to tell us just what else it's saying. Jacob - 13/05/2011 05:31:29 PM 854 Views
You're a fucking moron. *NM* Dan - 15/05/2011 11:11:08 PM 398 Views
You make a very important but too often overlooked point. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:54:40 AM 988 Views
??? the bible was harsher on homosexulaity than on rape random thoughts - 12/05/2011 06:56:43 PM 846 Views
Read Judges. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:17:29 PM 855 Views
You don't reconcile... you pick the parts you like and adjust the rest to suit you. TaskmasterJack - 13/05/2011 09:33:54 PM 775 Views
And you add in some New Age music and a little ankh as well *NM* Tom - 14/05/2011 02:35:27 AM 381 Views
Another example... Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2011 09:19:52 AM 777 Views
That's what people said about churches opposing slavery. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:06:26 PM 841 Views
I rest my case *NM* Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2011 04:48:32 PM 365 Views
That is a false dichotomy and we both know it. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:07:19 AM 831 Views
If you claim to follow the entire Bible, then you are completely correct. Tom - 12/05/2011 06:04:38 PM 774 Views
On the contrary, this move will take some butts out of the seats. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:16:22 PM 828 Views
We both know that isn't the case Tom - 12/05/2011 07:55:41 PM 921 Views
Whatever your issue is, get over it. Dannymac - 13/05/2011 06:17:26 PM 792 Views
You'd be a lot more effective... Jacob - 13/05/2011 06:45:31 PM 910 Views
You haven't adequately expressed your theology Tom - 13/05/2011 07:28:54 PM 895 Views
Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels beetnemesis - 12/05/2011 05:33:49 PM 894 Views
No Protestant denomination has added so much as a word to the Bible Tom - 12/05/2011 05:58:16 PM 764 Views
So, everyone hates Judith, then? beetnemesis - 12/05/2011 06:40:11 PM 849 Views
The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Churches accept Judith as part of Scripture. Tom - 12/05/2011 07:51:27 PM 796 Views
Does the Eastern Orthodox Church also segregate deuterocanonical works like Roman Catholicism does? Joel - 14/05/2011 02:19:03 AM 1104 Views
The Eastern Church bases everything on the Septuagint. Tom - 14/05/2011 02:34:41 AM 852 Views
That sounds appealing, and makes sense. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:44:56 AM 863 Views
Oh, I just enjoy calling Protestants "heretics" to remind them not everyone agrees with them. Tom - 14/05/2011 03:25:42 AM 813 Views
Oh, but they know that; in many cases, they exult in it. Joel - 14/05/2011 06:06:01 AM 808 Views
Re: Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels Isaac - 12/05/2011 08:52:48 PM 829 Views
The NIV is terrible. The NASB has the best translation I have found (of the NT, at least). Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 10:43:58 PM 980 Views
I find this really weird, to be honest beetnemesis - 13/05/2011 05:48:28 AM 867 Views
Well, it wasn't just Athanasius. But yes, we are lucky in that respect. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/05/2011 06:32:48 AM 348 Views
Athanasius's list reflected the victory of Pauline Christianity Tom - 13/05/2011 02:52:53 PM 803 Views
There's a school of thought that says that's a strong vindication of Athanasius. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:37:49 AM 755 Views
Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... Isaac - 13/05/2011 07:14:01 PM 804 Views
Re: Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... Dannymac - 15/05/2011 03:18:23 PM 1208 Views
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