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I find this really weird, to be honest beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 13/05/2011 05:48:28 AM
The fact that this guy Athanasius basically came up with a list of everything acceptable, and that no one has disputed it by bringing back something he dismissed.

Mostly just because there are so, so many flavors and interpretations of Christianity. It seems almost unreal that no one back in the 4th century would have disputed his list by going "Hey! You forgot this one!"

Maybe because there were so many centuries between him and the Protestant Reformation?



Hm. Anyway, thanks for the responses, you two.
I amuse myself.
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Yes, I suppose a church could go that route. Ghavrel - 14/05/2011 07:38:02 AM 761 Views
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Thanks (I'm actually OK with women priests though). Joel - 12/05/2011 07:09:11 AM 885 Views
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Agreed. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:17:45 AM 844 Views
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Since never, which is why I referenced five other eras you completely ignored. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:11:30 AM 892 Views
They did so, via negativa. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:22:17 PM 940 Views
Sorry for the delay, particularly since it looks like I'll be spending a fair amount of time here. Joel - 14/05/2011 12:31:33 AM 747 Views
Your church has a constitution?! Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 03:36:41 AM 805 Views
My Church has a congress! *NM* Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 03:37:52 AM 394 Views
Haha no way! *NM* Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 03:46:32 AM 348 Views
Well, we have one group of laity and one of bishops, so it is only mildy utter chaos. *NM* Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 05:51:09 AM 393 Views
We have a General Assembly and a Moderator. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:18:34 PM 899 Views
I had no idea the US was based on that system. Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 06:22:58 PM 732 Views
It is pretty common practice random thoughts - 12/05/2011 06:54:02 PM 771 Views
Oh I'm sure it is with newer churches. Dragonsoul - 12/05/2011 10:49:11 PM 825 Views
I'm happy to hear this, personally. I also wonder how you reconcile this with the Bible. Tom - 12/05/2011 04:11:31 AM 995 Views
Every direct reference to homosexuality in the Bible is a reference to rape. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:12:43 PM 823 Views
Every single word that you wrote in your response is complete bullshit. Tom - 12/05/2011 05:50:07 PM 953 Views
Knock off your eisegesis, try some exegesis Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:02:45 PM 871 Views
I'm trying to figure out just what your "gifts" are, because I don't see any. Tom - 12/05/2011 07:30:39 PM 841 Views
There are cases in which hypocrisy is far better than the alternatives. Legolas - 12/05/2011 10:04:32 PM 915 Views
Hypocrisy is better than, say, setting gays on fire, yes. Tom - 12/05/2011 10:10:40 PM 891 Views
My statement is that, from a pragmatic point of view, hypocrisy shouldn't be discouraged too much. Legolas - 13/05/2011 10:05:39 PM 888 Views
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Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? Dannymac - 13/05/2011 06:29:31 PM 847 Views
Re: Oh, is that how we're playing this, then? Jacob - 13/05/2011 07:02:35 PM 816 Views
I'm not playing. I'm pointing out some glaring errors on your part. Tom - 13/05/2011 07:25:08 PM 738 Views
Danny will correct me if I'm wrong, but... Legolas - 13/05/2011 09:55:14 PM 946 Views
Danny persistently refuses to say that Tom - 13/05/2011 10:13:55 PM 874 Views
And with respect to your textual point, once again you're wrong Tom - 12/05/2011 07:44:10 PM 964 Views
The Bible says what it says. The problem... people like to tell us just what else it's saying. Jacob - 13/05/2011 05:31:29 PM 801 Views
You're a fucking moron. *NM* Dan - 15/05/2011 11:11:08 PM 382 Views
You make a very important but too often overlooked point. Joel - 14/05/2011 01:54:40 AM 880 Views
??? the bible was harsher on homosexulaity than on rape random thoughts - 12/05/2011 06:56:43 PM 804 Views
Read Judges. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:17:29 PM 805 Views
You don't reconcile... you pick the parts you like and adjust the rest to suit you. TaskmasterJack - 13/05/2011 09:33:54 PM 737 Views
And you add in some New Age music and a little ankh as well *NM* Tom - 14/05/2011 02:35:27 AM 360 Views
Another example... Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2011 09:19:52 AM 738 Views
That's what people said about churches opposing slavery. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 04:06:26 PM 795 Views
I rest my case *NM* Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2011 04:48:32 PM 344 Views
That is a false dichotomy and we both know it. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:07:19 AM 793 Views
If you claim to follow the entire Bible, then you are completely correct. Tom - 12/05/2011 06:04:38 PM 736 Views
On the contrary, this move will take some butts out of the seats. Dannymac - 12/05/2011 07:16:22 PM 779 Views
We both know that isn't the case Tom - 12/05/2011 07:55:41 PM 884 Views
Whatever your issue is, get over it. Dannymac - 13/05/2011 06:17:26 PM 754 Views
You'd be a lot more effective... Jacob - 13/05/2011 06:45:31 PM 859 Views
You haven't adequately expressed your theology Tom - 13/05/2011 07:28:54 PM 854 Views
Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels beetnemesis - 12/05/2011 05:33:49 PM 842 Views
No Protestant denomination has added so much as a word to the Bible Tom - 12/05/2011 05:58:16 PM 716 Views
So, everyone hates Judith, then? beetnemesis - 12/05/2011 06:40:11 PM 787 Views
The Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Churches accept Judith as part of Scripture. Tom - 12/05/2011 07:51:27 PM 755 Views
Does the Eastern Orthodox Church also segregate deuterocanonical works like Roman Catholicism does? Joel - 14/05/2011 02:19:03 AM 1068 Views
The Eastern Church bases everything on the Septuagint. Tom - 14/05/2011 02:34:41 AM 805 Views
That sounds appealing, and makes sense. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:44:56 AM 822 Views
Oh, I just enjoy calling Protestants "heretics" to remind them not everyone agrees with them. Tom - 14/05/2011 03:25:42 AM 768 Views
Oh, but they know that; in many cases, they exult in it. Joel - 14/05/2011 06:06:01 AM 768 Views
Re: Cool cool. I have a question on a semi-related note, about Protestant Gospels Isaac - 12/05/2011 08:52:48 PM 793 Views
The NIV is terrible. The NASB has the best translation I have found (of the NT, at least). Ghavrel - 12/05/2011 10:43:58 PM 931 Views
I find this really weird, to be honest beetnemesis - 13/05/2011 05:48:28 AM 800 Views
Well, it wasn't just Athanasius. But yes, we are lucky in that respect. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/05/2011 06:32:48 AM 331 Views
Athanasius's list reflected the victory of Pauline Christianity Tom - 13/05/2011 02:52:53 PM 756 Views
There's a school of thought that says that's a strong vindication of Athanasius. Joel - 14/05/2011 02:37:49 AM 704 Views
Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... Isaac - 13/05/2011 07:14:01 PM 757 Views
Re: Since I haven't gotten around to asking yet... Dannymac - 15/05/2011 03:18:23 PM 1159 Views
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