if the term doesn't fit in the US then it makes no sense for US media to use the term here
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 08:14:40 PM
No matter the term means in Norway in the US it has a particular meaning and describes a particular group. To use the term in the US is misleading.
Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist).
- 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM
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Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM*
- 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM
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How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM*
- 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM
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That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist.
- 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM
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Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist
- 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM
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I'm not.
- 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM
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funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left
- 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM
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No one called him "American right"
- 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM
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so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM*
- 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM
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They don't have to claim him.
- 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM
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Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man
- 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM
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I neither care nor am responsible for US media
- 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM
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this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed?
- 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM
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Yes but I didn't reply to the main article, but to Trzaska being ignorant
- 26/07/2011 04:36:52 PM
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Just to be clear
- 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM
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just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist
- 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM
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People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views.
- 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM
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sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality
- 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM
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I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement,
- 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM
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See, the thing with an extremist, is that he doesn't have all that much in common with
- 26/07/2011 03:59:05 PM
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A right OR left wing extremist is just that; that's why your mouthpieces are so defensive.
- 26/07/2011 10:40:46 PM
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I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy
- 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM
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Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM*
- 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM
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- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM
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*NM*
- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM
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He murders kids because they're liberal, you spit on their graves: You both belong in an asylum.
- 26/07/2011 07:54:08 AM
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Aaaaaaand you are back on my ignore list. Thanks for confirming my original instincts were right. *NM*
- 26/07/2011 11:18:25 AM
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He says (through his lawyer) ...
- 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM
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funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied
- 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
- 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM
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Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist
- 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM
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Now I see what you mean.
- 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM
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I would argue that his actions were tied to his beliefs on the specific issue of immigration
- 26/07/2011 06:11:23 PM
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And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste
- 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM
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I'm seriously wondering if attacking the victims here will be the tipping point for US fascists.
- 26/07/2011 10:30:33 AM
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why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid?
- 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM
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+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona.....
- 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM
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Really? (+edit)
- 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM
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no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right
- 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM
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- 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM
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if the term doesn't fit in the US then it makes no sense for US media to use the term here
- 26/07/2011 08:14:40 PM
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This was my point.
- 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM
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so are you pulling crap out of thin air now?
- 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM
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You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back.
- 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM
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I may be frustrated but I think it is justified
- 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM
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I'm sorry if my comment was stupid.
- 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM
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I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you
- 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM
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It's the liberals fault they were murdered; I get that that's the American far right argument.
- 26/07/2011 11:09:25 PM
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BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right?
- 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM
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Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said?
- 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM
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He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism.
- 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM
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Wow. Let's just make this about us, why don't we?
- 26/07/2011 04:19:06 PM
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oh please the left is one trying to make about the right
- 26/07/2011 04:36:39 PM
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I'm referring to all Americans (both sides) who are currently fighting this out.
- 26/07/2011 04:44:45 PM
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I agree 100% that this issue shouldn't be used in American politics
- 26/07/2011 06:33:48 PM
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To Hell with them; even the normally indulgent American public will put them in a rubber room soon.
- 26/07/2011 11:36:13 PM
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You people all need to get a grip
- 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM
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+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM*
- 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM
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No, you do not agree with what Wibble said. Your +1 makes zero sense. *NM*
- 26/07/2011 11:11:31 PM
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That's what I'm trying to do.
- 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM
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You are too close to this just now.
- 26/07/2011 10:17:22 PM
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Probably,but that it happened in perhaps the safest most liberal place on Earth makes it inescapable
- 27/07/2011 12:26:45 AM
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Joel you are so full of shit
- 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM
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Read Joel's post title again, will you?
- 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM
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Oh please, Legolas 
- 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM
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- 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM
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Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM*
- 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM
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Bullshit
- 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM
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For the record, I've always supported guns for self defense (and hunting, and liberty from tyranny).
- 27/07/2011 10:52:02 AM
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While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to
- 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM
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I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions.
- 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM
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No trolling? And you include the first reply in that?
- 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM
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so is the troll the person who makes the point or is the people who refuse to acknowledge it
- 27/07/2011 02:41:31 PM
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Do you think trz was right to call him an ultra left wing anarchist?
- 27/07/2011 04:15:50 PM
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I assumed he was referring to me when talked about picking fights with people
- 27/07/2011 05:53:43 PM
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yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM*
- 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM
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extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them
- 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM
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One of us is.
- 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM
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Anyone saying Brevik has nothing in common with the American "Right" is lying to themselves
- 26/07/2011 08:49:29 PM
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glad you could come along, someone has to represent the ignorant kool-aid drinkers
- 26/07/2011 10:29:52 PM
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I don't mind them lying to themselves,but promoting the lie incites violent persecution complexes
- 26/07/2011 11:40:48 PM
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A suggestion
- 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM
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Maybe.
- 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM
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But there's a problem in all that
- 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM
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In that response, "they" etc. specifically means the talking heads and their defenders.
- 27/07/2011 02:44:25 PM
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Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand
- 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM
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I blame nested threads.
- 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM
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Personally, I blame your need to have the final post in every conversation
- 27/07/2011 10:27:30 PM
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