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That's what I'm trying to do. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM
Seriously, have you lot got nothing better to do than to poke your own political sores?

It's really not that fucking important just now, give it a rest.

It's especially important now, because 68 children were murdered simply for being liberal and the far rights only reaction is to either call them Hitler youth or claim the murderer was a liberal. That encourages other far right nut jobs to murder more liberals in defence of their righteous cause. Unlike Beck, Fox (and trzaska, db and random thoughts) I happen to be typing this about 60 miles from Oslo. The daughter of the people I'm staying with went to school with two girls on Utøya. One of them was shot twice and is reportedly doing well after multiple surgeries. They still haven't found her sister; she's presumed dead at this point. And then these... people want to blame them, me and people like us for their murder. I thank God my friends and family here have the sense and decency to know Beck and the others don't represent me or my country, despite claims to do just that. My inclination to get a gun license after I have a residence visa is now rock solid, because if (when) one of these murderous fascists pulls a gun on me and my family I intend to shoot him first. However "offended" Fox and their ilk are that a right wing terrorist is called what he is, I can tell you the entire country of Norway is more offended by their sympathy for the murderers beliefs and attempt to make murder prompted by those beliefs the work of liberals. No, there's more at stake for me here than just picking at "my own political sores". I've just been forcibly confronted with the harsh reality that if these bigots are allowed to spew their filth without opposition the rest of us can expect their more radical comrades to gun us down in cold blood. They're threatening my very life and that of my family, and have the audacity to be OFFENDED when I object.
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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM 1433 Views
Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM* - 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM 481 Views
How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM* - 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM 471 Views
That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM 575 Views
Well said - 26/07/2011 12:11:45 PM 504 Views
Thanks. - 26/07/2011 11:46:42 PM 534 Views
Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist - 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM 546 Views
I'm not. - 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM 710 Views
funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left - 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM 579 Views
No one called him "American right" - 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM 536 Views
so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM 555 Views
They don't have to claim him. - 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM 521 Views
Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man - 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM 539 Views
I neither care nor am responsible for US media - 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM 507 Views
this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed? - 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM 505 Views
Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM 600 Views
Re: Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:46:47 PM 455 Views
just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist - 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM 515 Views
People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views. - 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM 626 Views
sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality - 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM 615 Views
I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement, - 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM 542 Views
once again I was referring to the use of the term in the US - 26/07/2011 08:30:48 PM 569 Views
Precisely. - 27/07/2011 12:00:33 AM 486 Views
I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy - 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM 514 Views
Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM 458 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2011 08:51:23 PM 411 Views
- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM 527 Views
Ignorance is bliss? - 26/07/2011 11:08:53 AM 508 Views
Sometimes - 26/07/2011 08:01:27 PM 547 Views
He says (through his lawyer) ... - 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM 560 Views
funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied - 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 511 Views
I have no idea what you're talking about. - 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM 516 Views
Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist - 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM 509 Views
Now I see what you mean. - 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM 506 Views
And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste - 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM 557 Views
I listened to that clip last night - 26/07/2011 10:26:24 AM 595 Views
Unbefuckinglievable *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:12:03 AM 454 Views
Oh, and he was also showing what a huge hypocrite he is - 26/07/2011 12:12:20 PM 574 Views
I don't want to keep saying "wow," but what else? - 26/07/2011 04:26:32 PM 571 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 01:49:02 AM 522 Views
why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid? - 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM 567 Views
+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona..... - 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM 503 Views
Really? (+edit) - 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM 466 Views
no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right - 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM 637 Views
... - 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM 631 Views
This was my point. - 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM 465 Views
so are you pulling crap out of thin air now? - 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM 580 Views
You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back. - 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM 426 Views
I may be frustrated but I think it is justified - 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM 466 Views
I'm sorry if my comment was stupid. - 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM 514 Views
I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you - 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM 499 Views
Who is "traszka"? *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:33:49 PM 486 Views
'm going to try not to be offensive here, but the way I see it - 26/07/2011 04:35:54 PM 532 Views
I don't like Fox's opinion news shows and I don't watch them - 26/07/2011 06:21:01 PM 506 Views
Gah wrong place *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:07 PM 440 Views
BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right? - 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM 471 Views
Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said? - 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM 548 Views
He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism. - 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM 546 Views
Joel you truly are unhinged so I am done *NM* - 27/07/2011 01:11:43 AM 489 Views
Fair enough. - 27/07/2011 01:17:43 AM 513 Views
Pretty funny - 26/07/2011 01:47:19 PM 727 Views
The worst shooting massacre in history is not "pretty funny". - 26/07/2011 11:33:59 PM 464 Views
You people all need to get a grip - 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM 537 Views
+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM 518 Views
Try not replying next time, then. *NM* - 26/07/2011 10:10:27 PM 564 Views
That's what I'm trying to do. - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM 549 Views
Joel you are so full of shit - 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM 475 Views
Read Joel's post title again, will you? - 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 596 Views
Oh please, Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM 540 Views
Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM 547 Views
Bullshit - 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM 546 Views
While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to - 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM 518 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 11:50:02 AM 499 Views
I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions. - 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM 543 Views
No trolling? And you include the first reply in that? - 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM 558 Views
I don't know why Traska thinks that - 27/07/2011 07:37:50 PM 609 Views
yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM* - 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM 452 Views
I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 04:00:27 PM 569 Views
Re: I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 08:09:31 PM 613 Views
extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them - 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM 590 Views
Well - 27/07/2011 04:27:25 PM 503 Views
Joel's title and Joel's post really don't have much in common - 26/07/2011 11:52:36 PM 509 Views
Not just some guest on Fox News, also Bushs UN Ambassador. - 27/07/2011 12:32:40 AM 479 Views
One of us is. - 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM 533 Views
maybe Legolas is right and you are to close to this *NM* - 27/07/2011 12:39:29 AM 454 Views
Wibble, but maybe. - 27/07/2011 01:15:31 AM 690 Views
not really have you seen the main board? not much action. - 26/07/2011 10:40:21 PM 498 Views
A suggestion - 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM 491 Views
Maybe. - 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM 614 Views
But there's a problem in all that - 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM 676 Views
O'Reilly Shreds Media for Calling Norway Terrorist 'Christian' - 27/07/2011 05:14:30 AM 636 Views
Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand - 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM 512 Views
I blame nested threads. - 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM 592 Views