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That's what I'm trying to do. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM
Seriously, have you lot got nothing better to do than to poke your own political sores?

It's really not that fucking important just now, give it a rest.

It's especially important now, because 68 children were murdered simply for being liberal and the far rights only reaction is to either call them Hitler youth or claim the murderer was a liberal. That encourages other far right nut jobs to murder more liberals in defence of their righteous cause. Unlike Beck, Fox (and trzaska, db and random thoughts) I happen to be typing this about 60 miles from Oslo. The daughter of the people I'm staying with went to school with two girls on Utøya. One of them was shot twice and is reportedly doing well after multiple surgeries. They still haven't found her sister; she's presumed dead at this point. And then these... people want to blame them, me and people like us for their murder. I thank God my friends and family here have the sense and decency to know Beck and the others don't represent me or my country, despite claims to do just that. My inclination to get a gun license after I have a residence visa is now rock solid, because if (when) one of these murderous fascists pulls a gun on me and my family I intend to shoot him first. However "offended" Fox and their ilk are that a right wing terrorist is called what he is, I can tell you the entire country of Norway is more offended by their sympathy for the murderers beliefs and attempt to make murder prompted by those beliefs the work of liberals. No, there's more at stake for me here than just picking at "my own political sores". I've just been forcibly confronted with the harsh reality that if these bigots are allowed to spew their filth without opposition the rest of us can expect their more radical comrades to gun us down in cold blood. They're threatening my very life and that of my family, and have the audacity to be OFFENDED when I object.
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Fox Condemns (Calling) Norways Right Wing Terrorist (a Right Wing Terrorist). - 26/07/2011 02:31:25 AM 1413 Views
Norway shooter = ultra left-wing anarchist *NM* - 26/07/2011 04:11:58 AM 458 Views
How exactly is anarchism ultra left-wing? *NM* - 26/07/2011 05:48:15 AM 456 Views
That part actually makes sense; both are anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment and anti-statist. - 26/07/2011 08:03:19 AM 559 Views
Well said - 26/07/2011 12:11:45 PM 476 Views
Thanks. - 26/07/2011 11:46:42 PM 519 Views
Re: Norway shooter = Christian fundamentalist - 26/07/2011 05:58:54 AM 524 Views
I'm not. - 26/07/2011 08:14:33 AM 689 Views
funny how we always keep hearing that Europe left isn't Ameircan left - 26/07/2011 01:18:57 PM 565 Views
No one called him "American right" - 26/07/2011 01:59:07 PM 522 Views
so why is the left complaining that the American right won't claim him? *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:06:44 PM 539 Views
They don't have to claim him. - 26/07/2011 02:08:37 PM 503 Views
Or the left could not use the massacre for political advantage and just call him mad man - 26/07/2011 03:29:20 PM 525 Views
I neither care nor am responsible for US media - 26/07/2011 03:57:08 PM 491 Views
this is an article about the US media or hadn't you noticed? - 26/07/2011 04:27:58 PM 477 Views
Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:42:04 PM 584 Views
Re: Just to be clear - 26/07/2011 04:46:47 PM 439 Views
just be clear I am not defending the argument that he a leftist - 26/07/2011 05:30:27 PM 497 Views
People seem to forget that there are several different kinds of Left & Right wing views. - 26/07/2011 06:23:37 PM 607 Views
sorry that sounds all nice and reasonable but it doesn't really represent reality - 26/07/2011 06:41:10 PM 599 Views
I get that it is an American TV station making this nonsensical statement, - 26/07/2011 06:50:36 PM 528 Views
once again I was referring to the use of the term in the US - 26/07/2011 08:30:48 PM 553 Views
Precisely. - 27/07/2011 12:00:33 AM 471 Views
I am not surprised that the left has wasted no time in local for poltical gain from tragedy - 26/07/2011 01:13:13 PM 495 Views
Yeah, how dare we horn in on your schtick. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:43 PM 441 Views
*NM* - 26/07/2011 08:51:23 PM 392 Views
- 26/07/2011 10:16:12 PM 499 Views
Ignorance is bliss? - 26/07/2011 11:08:53 AM 490 Views
Sometimes - 26/07/2011 08:01:27 PM 525 Views
He says (through his lawyer) ... - 26/07/2011 01:54:51 PM 546 Views
funny how when it is right wing wacko we always see that title applied - 26/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 491 Views
I have no idea what you're talking about. - 26/07/2011 03:55:13 PM 501 Views
Ted Kaczynski was a far left extremist - 26/07/2011 04:24:21 PM 490 Views
Now I see what you mean. - 26/07/2011 04:43:49 PM 492 Views
And Glenn Beck shows his usual good taste - 26/07/2011 09:11:34 AM 536 Views
I listened to that clip last night - 26/07/2011 10:26:24 AM 578 Views
Unbefuckinglievable *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:12:03 AM 430 Views
Oh, and he was also showing what a huge hypocrite he is - 26/07/2011 12:12:20 PM 558 Views
I don't want to keep saying "wow," but what else? - 26/07/2011 04:26:32 PM 548 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 01:49:02 AM 503 Views
why does Fox NEws makes liberals so stupid? - 26/07/2011 01:04:50 PM 552 Views
+1 - the mainstream media loves to jump to conclusions like in Arizona..... - 26/07/2011 01:13:12 PM 486 Views
Really? (+edit) - 26/07/2011 04:53:53 PM 443 Views
no the argument started when the media couldn't stop trying to hang him around the neck of the right - 26/07/2011 06:46:59 PM 622 Views
... - 26/07/2011 06:52:45 PM 617 Views
This was my point. - 26/07/2011 08:21:17 PM 451 Views
so are you pulling crap out of thin air now? - 26/07/2011 08:36:08 PM 557 Views
You need to take a few deep breaths and take a step back. - 26/07/2011 11:09:47 PM 404 Views
I may be frustrated but I think it is justified - 27/07/2011 12:11:09 AM 449 Views
I'm sorry if my comment was stupid. - 27/07/2011 04:38:47 PM 498 Views
I was just taken back a bit because I read it right after complementing you - 27/07/2011 06:05:38 PM 484 Views
Who is "traszka"? *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:33:49 PM 469 Views
'm going to try not to be offensive here, but the way I see it - 26/07/2011 04:35:54 PM 517 Views
I don't like Fox's opinion news shows and I don't watch them - 26/07/2011 06:21:01 PM 483 Views
Gah wrong place *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:32:07 PM 420 Views
BTW, you understand the American right are the only people on the PLANET who dispute he's far right? - 26/07/2011 11:21:59 PM 454 Views
Joel did you actually read what the Ambassador said? - 27/07/2011 12:37:39 AM 530 Views
He called it "speculation" that Breivik was part of right-wing extremism. - 27/07/2011 01:03:11 AM 526 Views
Joel you truly are unhinged so I am done *NM* - 27/07/2011 01:11:43 AM 470 Views
Fair enough. - 27/07/2011 01:17:43 AM 497 Views
Pretty funny - 26/07/2011 01:47:19 PM 697 Views
The worst shooting massacre in history is not "pretty funny". - 26/07/2011 11:33:59 PM 438 Views
You people all need to get a grip - 26/07/2011 08:33:01 PM 519 Views
+1 - I have no idea why Joel started this thread.....he is obsessed with labels. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:39:29 PM 502 Views
Try not replying next time, then. *NM* - 26/07/2011 10:10:27 PM 513 Views
That's what I'm trying to do. - 26/07/2011 10:05:29 PM 530 Views
Joel you are so full of shit - 26/07/2011 10:39:03 PM 453 Views
Read Joel's post title again, will you? - 26/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 577 Views
Oh please, Legolas - 26/07/2011 11:44:26 PM 523 Views
Quite. And I have every right to point out they're being insensitive jerks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:53:28 PM 533 Views
Bullshit - 27/07/2011 04:20:04 AM 521 Views
While I have no real interest in getting involved in the troll fest this post has turned in to - 27/07/2011 11:23:46 AM 494 Views
*NM* - 27/07/2011 11:50:02 AM 482 Views
I don't see any troll posts. Just discussions. - 27/07/2011 02:18:06 PM 522 Views
No trolling? And you include the first reply in that? - 27/07/2011 02:28:51 PM 540 Views
I don't know why Traska thinks that - 27/07/2011 07:37:50 PM 591 Views
yes Joel did an outstanding job of proving I wasn't being paranoid *NM* - 27/07/2011 02:35:05 PM 438 Views
I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 04:00:27 PM 550 Views
Re: I do agree that Joel is too close and is getting too riled - 27/07/2011 08:09:31 PM 589 Views
extremely offensive...makes them fearful... gives some people... another excuse to try&silence them - 27/07/2011 04:14:37 PM 575 Views
Well - 27/07/2011 04:27:25 PM 484 Views
Joel's title and Joel's post really don't have much in common - 26/07/2011 11:52:36 PM 493 Views
Not just some guest on Fox News, also Bushs UN Ambassador. - 27/07/2011 12:32:40 AM 458 Views
One of us is. - 27/07/2011 12:22:44 AM 509 Views
maybe Legolas is right and you are to close to this *NM* - 27/07/2011 12:39:29 AM 437 Views
Wibble, but maybe. - 27/07/2011 01:15:31 AM 657 Views
not really have you seen the main board? not much action. - 26/07/2011 10:40:21 PM 481 Views
A suggestion - 27/07/2011 03:30:14 AM 473 Views
Maybe. - 27/07/2011 04:26:44 AM 595 Views
But there's a problem in all that - 27/07/2011 12:45:24 PM 660 Views
O'Reilly Shreds Media for Calling Norway Terrorist 'Christian' - 27/07/2011 05:14:30 AM 620 Views
Bad Joel, you let this thread go out of hand - 27/07/2011 09:29:19 PM 488 Views
I blame nested threads. - 27/07/2011 09:39:04 PM 572 Views